Hips And Valleys

loneframer

A bastard hip will always sit to one side of the wall corner or the other, if yo are keeping an equal overhang. If the hip is located properly, you can make the HAP the same as the commons/jacks on that side of the corner. Again, I always layout the fascia cuts first and work backwards for the seat cut to keep an equal drop from top of wall.

ClemS

i just use trusses because i can't figure anything out

loneframer

Aye aye captain.

mics_54

I think some ones feelings got hurt.

Gus Dering

He should have been sent to his room. He only got his ball taken away.

I hope he comes around, the kid does have some promise.

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loneframer

Here is a few pics of a 20/12 into a 7/12, give or take an inch one way or the other.

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ClemS

headering out the top is cheating! plus valleys are inherently easier to do than hips. I skip the tails on all my valleys, even the regulars. and I wish you'd start using trusses already, save some money on labor and pass the savings on to the homeowner!
other than that you're doing an outstanding job

mics_54

That's what I like most about you Gus...always there with a word of encouragment for people that need it.

loneframer

finished pics

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loneframer

I had to cheat, I only got an additional 500 clams to make that a vaulted ceiling instead of an overframe.

ClemS

that's not too bad. it isn't that much more work, and looks much better than a scab. i usually try to shove beams into the second floor deck under the two sidewalls in the foyer to let me frame the reverse first and drop the main on top.

cranbrook2

Clem YOU are my hero !! Your so wise .

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jkfox624

Hopefully someday i'll be perfect to.

loneframer

I've done that a couple times,as in my own house. In this case, the decision was made after ridges and gables were set.

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mccarty.74

Clem, you're a forgive and forget kind of guy huh?

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cranbrook2

Last time i checked clam this was a public forum . Maybe someday you will be Extreme !! When you grow up of course .

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ClemS

well at least they didn't wait for you to be done sheathing.
had that happen once, had to stuff true valleys underneath the sleepers and block everything out. stupid fun

Cole

Who are you calling a fag? Would you like a timeout? If so, let me know and I can add your name to the baby-pin with all the other guys.

This is a public forum, privately owned. It's as simple as that.

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ClemS

my guys hate me for that. anything that goes wrong always goes on for weeks until it is replaced by another snafu

loneframer

That other snafu would be having all your tools hot-melted into your nail bags with the guys i work with.