Hip Roof Truss System

Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-31-2007, 02:17 PM   #1
The Duke
Kent Whitten's Avatar
Trade: Cabinet Maker
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Portland, Maine
Posts: 14,746
Rewards Points: 2,040

Hip Roof Truss System

OK, everyone. I have been meaning to do this for so long. This is an almost perfect hip roof truss system. I conjured this up from all the trussed roof systems I've installed and kept saying to myself "I wish they did......."

I lived in Seattle for awhile as some here know, and there was one truss company that came ever so close, Tilton truss, which is now out of business. Since I moved back to Maine, and I think you will agree with me if you've installed hip truss packages IBUILD, that they are very bad here.

There are a ton of hangers to put in and for no reason. It takes an extreme amount of extra work and materials which the whole point of using trusses is to reduce the amount of time and work needed to install a roof system.

My idea eliminates all hangers and bracing except for those required to install on the webs which will happen in any truss design. I honestly really can't say what the rest of the country has for hip truss systems. Maybe they use this. I would be surprised if I was the original thinker of this. I made this up and posted it on my site so instead of continuously explaining it to the truss designers here, I just give them the address and hopefully I can convince them.

If you find this method acceptable and want to notify any truss designers in your area that this would work better for you, then by all means let them have it. Use it freely.

I feel it is such a money saver for both sides of the equation. Let me know what you think!

Hip Roof Truss pdf

Oh and the almost perfect is that the hip hits the hip master ever so slightly. got to take a little chunk out of something. it's like " roughly

Last edited by Kent Whitten; 03-31-2007 at 03:32 PM.
Kent Whitten is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Kent Whitten For This Useful Post:
monheganview (04-11-2012)

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!




Old 03-31-2007, 03:00 PM   #2
K2's Avatar
Trade: Colorado master electrician, EC, B-1 GC
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Colorado Front Range
Posts: 2,603
Rewards Points: 2,000

Re: Hip Roof Truss System

I think what I'm seeing is a dropdown and a layover on the hip set and I think they started doing that here however in my day they were not and it was a pain in the tail. Nice detail Framerman

Here is one i've been thinking about for trusses and have not seen.

Say your house is 24' wide. You order your trusses 28' with the bearing point back 2 feet on each side. No tail. You end up with your soffits preframed and with a little thinking you could have your soffit ply up and waiting for the trusses to drop down on.

I saw some garage builders do something similar by using a 2x4 top plate with a 2x12 top top plate. The 8" extra on the plate became the painted soffit and they just extended the ceiling joist and rafters out.

Of course you would have to work out the bearing point detail.


K2 is offline  
Old 03-31-2007, 03:23 PM   #3
The Duke
Kent Whitten's Avatar
Trade: Cabinet Maker
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Portland, Maine
Posts: 14,746
Rewards Points: 2,040

Re: Hip Roof Truss System

yeah, they do that all the time here. raised heel is what they call them. They order just regular trusses with tails and you snub off the tail. It's OK, but if you blow your insulation in, you needs blockers for that and anywhere there is wind or earthquake would not allow this without some excessive hold downs and blocking which would amount to a boatload of work.

They don't bother with the blocking here for trusses. Joists either. Have not seen it once. It's pathetic to say I enjoy getting paid for not putting stuff in that you really should be putting in.
Kent Whitten is offline  
Old 03-31-2007, 04:56 PM   #4
finehomes's Avatar
Trade: Builder/Developer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kaysville, Utah
Posts: 204
Rewards Points: 150

Re: Hip Roof Truss System

Yup...I've been having my truss guys build exactly what you show for nearly 10 years now. sure does make things fast and easy.

finehomes is offline  
Old 03-31-2007, 05:17 PM   #5
IBUILD's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 91
Rewards Points: 75

Re: Hip Roof Truss System

Fman, nice detail, very interesting to say the less, I will have my Truss designer check it out.

I know what you mean about the hip packages, half the time they dont even fit correctly, and all the hardware sucks up time and money!!
Ive built some pretty funky roofs with pre-builts, much rather hand frame them, and usually do if I can get away with it.
IBUILD is offline  
Old 03-31-2007, 05:33 PM   #6
The Duke
Kent Whitten's Avatar
Trade: Cabinet Maker
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Portland, Maine
Posts: 14,746
Rewards Points: 2,040

Re: Hip Roof Truss System

Awesome, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of that. It is so so simple.

What we get here is the jacks stop at the hip master 9' in. A hip girder is hung with a 6x hanger and beveled jacks into the side of the hip girder....all requiring hangers.

Then, when you get to the H1, H2, etc, the top chords go to the theoretical middle of the hip line. You can't run a hip up through. You have to cut little hips between the trusses. You can't cut them back because they're trusses and there's gussets there.

Then the layover is 2x's flat instead of on edge. Material for this needs to be provided by the client/HO/contractor.
Kent Whitten is offline  
Old 04-01-2007, 03:28 AM   #7
Kgmz's Avatar
Trade: General, Electrical, and Plumbing Contractor
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Portland, OR & Eatonville, WA
Posts: 1,300
Rewards Points: 500

Re: Hip Roof Truss System

Almost all the hip sets we have used are like this.

According to http://www.alpeng.com Alpine Engineered Products a truss industry supplier, these hips sets are called a California hip set.

Also download this file from them for a look at a lot of other types of hip sets, and a lot of other types of trusses.



Last edited by Kgmz; 04-01-2007 at 03:34 AM.
Kgmz is offline  

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Truss Roof Tear Off Standstrong Remodeling 10 06-09-2013 09:46 AM
Torch down(flat roof) leaks BAD...can you give advice ASAP? Detail Guy Roofing 22 01-05-2013 05:42 PM
Scissors truss installation in an existing roof. JohnnyS General Discussion 4 06-25-2007 07:17 PM
Low Pitch Roof solutions Fixer Roofing 4 02-18-2007 10:09 AM
Do You Need A New Roof ??? Perfect Roofing Roofing 0 02-10-2005 01:46 AM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
Drywall Talk is for

At DrywallTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?