Help With Design For Patio

Knighton

What I would like to do is to either extend the first floor roof over the concrete patio; or place the roof over the patio that is a foot or so higher than the current first floor. Here are my problems and questions:

If I go with the shorter roof which will be flush with the current roof, I I am going to have to either place the supports on the concrete patio or break out the patio floor and place the supports there. I think that by placing the supports on top of the patio, I might have some potential problems with settling later down the road.

If I choose to the slightly higher roof, i think i could place the supports in new holes past the concrete patio floor, though with that same pitch it might end up slightly lower than the current roof.

Any suggestions?

Attached Thumbnails

 

Tom R

Tough one, - - how about the roof starting a foot or so higher and extending out to the end of the patio, - - but with a lesser pitch than that existing roof, - - so the outer edge can keep a good heigth?? You could put a wall in between the roofs or (I would) leave it open. Looks like the new roof could overlap the existing roof by a foot or so for rain protection, if you went right to the corner of the house.

I don't think flushing up to the existing roof would look good in your situation, - - too short, too low for a patio roof. A completely independent roof would look better, - - anyway, - - just my opinion. Let us know what you decide on, either way, and don't forget PICS!!

Mike(VA)

Keep in mind that at some point, the HO might want to enclosed the new area. For that reason, keeping your posts on the existing patio makes it easier to frame a wall, screens, etc., However, you will need to cut the patio and dig footers. Looks like this will be a permit job and they will require a deeper footer than what the concrete patio provides.

__________________
__________________________________________________ ___________
I EXPECT THAT SOMEDAY I WILL SEE THE FRUITS OF MY LABOR. IS IT SOMEDAY YET?
Clifton, Great Falls, McLean, Fairfax Station, Manassas, Virginia Renovation Contractor

Mike(VA)

Whoops, forgot. The roof height will be determined by the 2nd floor band board as that is the easiest place to attach the new roof. You can't lag into face brick or morter joints.

__________________
__________________________________________________ ___________
I EXPECT THAT SOMEDAY I WILL SEE THE FRUITS OF MY LABOR. IS IT SOMEDAY YET?
Clifton, Great Falls, McLean, Fairfax Station, Manassas, Virginia Renovation Contractor

Knighton

What if that band board is lower than the 1st floor roof? It looks like it might be.

Knighton

if I can't lag into the brick, what fastener should I use to attach it?

ScipioAfricanus

Sell them on something nice that will make you money.

Andy.

P.S. If you sell them this you owe me.

Attached Thumbnails

 

rbsremodeling

We need that in a pdf format with a few more elevation pics thanks

__________________

tgeb

And an Engineer's stamp on those would be good also.

__________________
Tom

www.gebcon.com

rbsremodeling

__________________

ScipioAfricanus

Good god, why do I give this stuff away?

rbsremodeling

Because if you didn't we would have to beat it out of you

__________________

Brock

No no no no!!! The band board will be the attachment for the joists. The rafters can be supported by a leg from the joist top to any height. (easily done with mansard trusses).
Of course I would stick frame it.

The best sale will be to extend the existing roof over. Sure you will cut and remove some flatwork. The job wouldn't be any fun if you didn't.

Cosmetically the best solution IMOH.

ScipioAfricanus

Makes sense. Tis better to give than to receive (in this case a beating)


Andy.

rbsremodeling

If you ever have a pricing question I am here for you in return

__________________

ScipioAfricanus

Well you lost me on that one. Do you mean extend the roofing of the second floor roof line?

Andy.

Houston's

where in la u live?

__________________

ScipioAfricanus

How much for a mild beating using say vinyl thundersticks (like at a baseball game) delivered by, oh, let's say Ashley Judd and a full out thumping like in the first Dirty Harry movie?

rbsremodeling

IF you look closely you can see a dog house that matches the house behind the hedges.

__________________

rbsremodeling

Come on that's easy tree fiddy

__________________