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Old 02-15-2012, 06:40 PM   #1
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When doing tall balloon walls how does everyone go about the gable walls? I used the construction master to figure the rise every 16 inches for the roof pitch and started cutting. Worked well. We did not have room to build them and then stand them. The one wall was 12' on one end up to 25' on the other.

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Old 02-15-2012, 06:43 PM   #2
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You know that calculator has a rake wall function right?

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...I do now..lol...I will have to dig up the manual now.
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i build my rake walls to the underside of the sheathing so...
i measure my wall height on each end of the wall. then the HAP on both sides. and on the far side measure the rise on top of the hap and snap your lines. put your plates down make sure your end studs are parallel and then fill in your regular studs. mark 2 bottom plates. use one on the bottom and one top to keep the shoulders good and use it to transfer your layout. Mark the studs in place. cut nail. sheath and overhang.
bam

or measure your wall height on each side and trace your rafters. fool proof
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I looked at my manual. Time for a new construction master. I have an older one that does not have that feature. I saw that they sell an app for my droid that is from the same company.might give that a try.
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I just figure the math. Call me old fashioned. It keeps my mind Sharp.
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When doing tall balloon walls how does everyone go about the gable walls? I used the construction master to figure the rise every 16 inches for the roof pitch and started cutting. Worked well. We did not have room to build them and then stand them. The one wall was 12' on one end up to 25' on the other.

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Just curious for other methods.
Sounds good all I could add is to layout the top plate and when you have all your studs cut line the kit up and mark your 8' and 16' block line and you can nail the block on before you stand it up.
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Right above the rise button
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Mine is a construction master 3...old...no rwall button. Just downloaded buildcalc for my android. That has it as well as some sweet stair layout tools. I was able to get my calcs to work on my old calc just had some extra steps.
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We don't do any math anymore except for calculating the topplates, which is the same length as the rafter.

So often here the deck it too wet to snap it out, so we frame the perimeter of the wall and measure in the studs. It is slower, but we find it easier.

If the wall is framed after the fact, we'll use a laser plumbbob to get the studs laid out.



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We don't do any math anymore except for calculating the topplates, which is the same length as the rafter.

So often here the deck it too wet to snap it out, so we frame the perimeter of the wall and measure in the studs. It is slower, but we find it easier.

If the wall is framed after the fact, we'll use a laser plumbbob to get the studs laid out.




i learned how to build them from you and your pics
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Right above the rise button
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Is that sketchup?
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Is that sketchup?


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AutoCAD 2007 / 2010

Sometimes SolidBuilder or Softplan. I haven't really learned Sketchup. Some guys here are masters at it.

I'd like to try Chief some day.
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That is cool.
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i get my stud lengths from my framing square

tells you how much difference to add for whatever rise
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Re: Gable Wall Framing


I've done it the same way as you basically. If it's an easy pitch then it's easy to do the math in your head, a 6:12 roof and you cut each stud 8 inches longer. Another way you can do it, I haven't tried this, but snap out the rake wall on the floor, put in your fire blocking but only nail one side of the block on each bay, then take your saw and sight down the chalk line and make each cut by eye, you don't even have to adjust the bevel on your saw. Then finish nailing off your blocks. Ask if they want one or two top plates on your rake wall as well. Code allows just one top plate on a rake wall, but some people prefer two.

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