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KemoSabe
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Fun With Wood X-bridging
I had an idea to test wood X-bridging. Here is the setup.
I built a mock floor with 2' 2x10s, used 7/16 OSB for decking, 1x3 firring strips for bridging, stapled with 2" 7/16 crown staples(3-4 per end, as I typically would.) Obviously the floor is severely underbuilt. I nailed a 2x6 "box" to only the end joists to prevent them from just kicking out as weight was applied. You can see in the last pic that the field joists are shorter. The first pic is before the bridging was stapled. Here is where the fun begins. 1. How much weight can be loaded above only the center joist before catastrophic failure? 2. Any guesses what the point of failure will be?
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KemoSabe
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
Here is the complete system before applying weight.
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
really...you are gonna make us wait....lol
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
More than you'd expect?
Less than you'd hope? The weight of a Lone Framer?
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
You haven't had a date in awhile have you?
![]() My hat's off to you man, test the "theories". I personally have never been a fan of bridging, but I understand the use.
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridgingQuote:
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
Well you did it. Good for you.
I still say 220 lbs And the cause of failure is the bottom connections on the outer most bridging pulled away and I hope you got your feet out of the way when it went kaboom.
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridgingQuote:
I got the idea to test bridging a few days ago, couldn't let it go.
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
I'll say 800 lbs
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
700 lbs.
And I have no idea the cause of failure, but you should probably refer to it as the point of failure, the weakest link. The cause is, of course the excess weight. edit: How did you add weight? Last edited by tgeb; 11-13-2009 at 08:46 PM. |
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
sawhorse will flip under
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
I'm gonna guess it held a loneframer, the ballet instructor, a case of beer but failed when the pizza delivery guy slammed dinner down. If it wasnt for the 3 meat bonanza the ballet instructor had to have it might have held. And it failed at the anchor of the 2x6 first causing a chain reaction and alot of shook up beer.
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
I'm not clear what you are exactly trying to test here? Is it the strength of the joist or the X-bridging?
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
Thats why I nailed the box on, to pin the end joists from splaying out.
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
Centered 2 ten pound plates over the center joist, then started adding 50s.
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
Why not repeat the setup without the bridging? I am guessing thats where this is headed. Quick somebody alert the engineers that they are about to be proven WRONG!!!!
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
The ability to transfer and share load over the whole assembly using wood bridging.
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Re: Fun With Wood X-bridging
If you had something tying the horses together it would have held more weight.
I think
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