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Old 11-23-2008, 12:12 PM   #1
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It is in the addition folder. Sorry the pics are to big to put them up here. There is some electrical and plumbing in the way. 2x6 exterior 16 oc, triple 2x12's for headers. the floor is on tgi's with the 2x4 flange I think those are the tgi 60's. walls from the ground up are sheeted in 7/16's the floor is 3/4 T/G. The roof is 3/4 also.
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Old 11-23-2008, 12:15 PM   #2
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It is in the addition folder. Sorry the pics are to big to put them up here. There is some electrical and plumbing in the way. 2x6 exterior 16 oc, triple 2x12's for headers. the floor is on tgi's with the 2x4 flange I think those are the tgi 60's. walls from the ground up are sheeted in 7/16's the floor is 3/4 T/G. The roof is 3/4 also.
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Why 3/4" on the roof?
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Why 3/4" on the roof?
That was the archi doing that. I wanted to do just 5/8th but it makes it more stable.(The stable part was told to me by the guy who stamped the plans.) I designed the addition but we need a archi stamp so we payed him to look over the plans and add what needed to be added for our city.

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Get to know what your "F-stop" does....
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Get to know what your "F-stop" does....
haha I know my camera very well. Most of these pics were not taking by me. My sis and dad like playing with my big camera. Sorry.
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was there a question? or are you showing off your work?
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That was the archi doing that. I wanted to do just 5/8th but it makes it more stable.(The stable part was told to me by the guy who stamped the plans.) I designed the addition but we need a archi stamp so we payed him to look over the plans and add what needed to be added for our city.
Architect was in La La land. I don't care where you're from, sheathing a roof with 3/4" is a waste of time. If the Archy thought that, you might as well use 3/4" t&g and glue on the roof and then sheath and glue the walls with 3/4" t&g.
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Is that OSB and Plywood on the roof deck? Archi spec?
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Architect was in La La land. I don't care where you're from, sheathing a roof with 3/4" is a waste of time. If the Archy thought that, you might as well use 3/4" t&g and glue on the roof and then sheath and glue the walls with 3/4" t&g.

I always use 3/4 for floors,roofs and walls
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I always use 3/4 for floors,roofs and walls
Floors for me and every on every forum I participate on is always 3/4" T&G glued. Roof 5/8" and walls 1/2". Why in the world would you use 3/4" on the roof and walls? Are you using T&G?

There has been some talk about a few people who use 3/4" on roofs and they say because they are building a better quality house compared to the rest of the world which is BS. You're the first one so far that uses 3/4" for walls. Are you serious or just busting ba!!s?

Are you doing this on new houses, or are you doing this on additions tying into the existing house where the roof and walls are 3/4"?
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We put 5/8" T&G on many roofs in Maine, no glue though and as far as I know, no 3/4". I could understand with heavy snow areas if they decide. Walls 1/2". I've heard one or two that use 5/8".
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Floors for me and every on every forum I participate on is always 3/4" T&G glued. Roof 5/8" and walls 1/2". Why in the world would you use 3/4" on the roof and walls? Are you using T&G?

There has been some talk about a few people who use 3/4" on roofs and they say because they are building a better quality house compared to the rest of the world which is BS. You're the first one so far that uses 3/4" for walls. Are you serious or just busting ba!!s?

Are you doing this on new houses, or are you doing this on additions tying into the existing house where the roof and walls are 3/4"?
Serious. I grew up in hurricane land and have see what 3/4 stands up to as far a trees falling on roofs or against the houses, flying debri sand snow/debris weight etc. and have stuck with it for 18 years.

Might be in my head I have not ran load bearing/structual test or done any research. But I have seen 30 foot trees it house with 3/4 walls and roofs and lay their till i cut them off.

I do think it is a stronger house with 3/4 all around. I do mostly remodeling so the 3.4 matches up on additions, repairs and tie-ins in most occasions

I don't use tongue and groove and trusses or glue are a waist of time imo. The hassle out weights the benefits in my opinion.
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Architect was in La La land. I don't care where you're from, sheathing a roof with 3/4" is a waste of time. If the Archy thought that, you might as well use 3/4" t&g and glue on the roof and then sheath and glue the walls with 3/4" t&g.

I agree Joe, the only time i would use 3/4'' on a roof would be matching up some existing 1x6 t&g....
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Serious. I grew up in hurricane land and have see what 3/4 stands up to as far a trees falling on roofs or against the houses, flying debri sand snow/debris weight etc. and have stuck with it for 18 years.

Might be in my head I have not ran load bearing/structual test or done any research. But I have seen 30 foot trees it house with 3/4 walls and roofs and lay their till i cut them off.
If it works for you keep doing it. It sounds like your doing it by choice. Do you get plans from Architects that spec 3/4" on the roof and walls?

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I do mostly remodeling so the 3.4 matches up on additions, repairs and tie-ins in most occasions

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I do alot of additions also. When the addition wall has to be flush with the existing wall, I'll ask the GC if they want to sheath with 3/4" or 1/2". I will tell them that if the sheath with 1/2" I';ll leave the frame sticking past the existing frame 1/4" so that the sheathing is flush with the existing 3/4". It's their choice dollar wise.

Either way if the new walls on the inside have to continue with the existing walls because the whole wall is coming out, they will have to furr out the new walls for sheetrock. Some additions the existing wall isn't coming out totally and they don't have to furr the new walls out.

Additions and tying into the existing house is a whole other ballgame compared to new framing. I enjoy it though.
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The architect I work with the most spec's 3/4 ply on walls an roofs often. Maybe that's why we hit if off so good

Especially if it is 2 or more stories above grade


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I agree Joe, the only time i would use 3/4'' on a roof would be matching up some existing 1x6 t&g....
I do sometimes in that situation also. The thing I always do whether the existing house has a gable or hip and the new addition roof has to match up perfect when I sheath, I cut the existing sheathing back staggering the cuts and run the new sheathing over the existing rafters to tie the roofs together nicely. It gives it a cleaner finish and no hump where the new meets the old. Especially when the existing is a hip.

I see many additions where the the sheathing on the new addition butts right into the existing sheathing sitting on the hip and when they are done you can see the line. At least I can anyway, unless it's just me. I;m a pineapple though because I always drive past a job that I see going on to see the end result. I even slow down with my wife and son and she always has a comment. What else is new, she still loves me....I think............
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RB your stuff looks good too. Nice work there- ARCHI in LA LA LA LAND big time. Our footings are 12 deep by 24 inches wide!!! The wall to carry to carry the upstairs is 10 inches thick with # 6 rebar running 2 pieces a foot down from the top then a foot up from the bottom 2 pieces running. The thing is built like a brick **** house! Interior walls are all getting insulated along with 5/8 rock glued and screwed.
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Nice work RBS - to the rest, look at where he builds, there is so much hot air & crap flying around their, you would be silly not to use the strongest products available.

Personally around here we use OSB, but to each his own
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