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Old 03-29-2007, 03:32 PM   #1
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Just curious how much you guys would bid this. I already figured it.
2500 s.f. home on slab, 3 car 925 s.f. ,10' 2x6 exterior walls ,14' radius
wall in great room easy trussed flat roof w/pony wall ,single story
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:38 PM   #2
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Just curious how much you guys would bid this. I already figured it.
2500 s.f. home on slab, 3 car 925 s.f. ,10' 2x6 exterior walls ,14' radius
wall in great room easy trussed flat roof w/pony wall ,single story
Without all the gory details I'll say 19,500.00 usd. Soffits, facia windows, doors. They supply nails and hardware.

Floating walls on that slab?? Or maybe you have better soil in Teller.

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Without all the gory details I'll say 19,500.00 usd. Soffits, facia windows, doors. They supply nails and hardware.

Floating walls on that slab?? Or maybe you have better soil in Teller.
no floating walls here. I went 22,500. I supply nails and crane. thats soffit, fascia and doors and windows. I forgot to mention that there is
500 s.f. of covered porch. Thanks for your input
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the good thing is you don't have a floor to put down. That's your bonus. You're gonna use that bonus on the roof for the living room. I usually figure anything rounded is at least quadruple the price for that particular part. I don't mean the whole house.

Also depends on the part of the country which I'm sure you're aware of.

19,5 you'll make money. good price.

edit: well, yeah the extras you just said would bump it a good amount. you're right there. good luck
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the good thing is you don't have a floor to put down. That's your bonus. You're gonna use that bonus on the roof for the living room. I usually figure anything rounded is at least quadruple the price for that particular part. I don't mean the whole house.

Also depends on the part of the country which I'm sure you're aware of.

19,5 you'll make money. good price.

edit: well, yeah the extras you just said would bump it a good amount. you're right there. good luck

Thanks.
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no floating walls here. I went 22,500. I supply nails and crane. thats soffit, fascia and doors and windows. I forgot to mention that there is
500 s.f. of covered porch. Thanks for your input
I'm alway impressed when someone bids more than me. That means they plan on making money and stay in business. Good job on your bid.

By the way. Whenever you see the floating wall detail, that is my detail. I drew it in an engineers office in 1982 when we switched from the 3/4 inch void to the 1-1/2 inch void. The next day it was on my plans and everyone else's plans. I think they should pay me 5 cents for every house that used my detail.
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I'm alway impressed when someone bids more than me. That means they plan on making money and stay in business. Good job on your bid.

By the way. Whenever you see the floating wall detail, that is my detail. I drew it in an engineers office in 1982 when we switched from the 3/4 inch void to the 1-1/2 inch void. The next day it was on my plans and everyone else's plans. I think they should pay me 5 cents for every house that used my detail.
you got a claim to fame I've framed in 6 states and colorado is the first time i've seen floating walls.
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[QUOTE=Rob Saxon;218784]you got a claim to fameQUOTE]

I need to come up with something better huh? I better hurry.
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don't know the floating wall. what is it? got a drawing of it? I'm curious.
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don't know the floating wall. what is it? got a drawing of it? I'm curious.
This shows a picture and explains a little about framing on expansive soils.


http://www.asktooltalk.com/home/qand...ting-walls.htm
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They're showing a 3" void. Last i knew we were doing 1-1/2 " voids.
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How about room addition sq ft price.Considering you have to peal off the siding to attach new build. knock out walls to open it up to the addition. so many things you dont have with a new frame this one is 18x18 4/12 roof not asking for a materail price with that that would be to hard to break down for you.just basic frame price new homes are going for about 170,00a ft here.I was thinking about 90.00 a ft ?
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interesting. never seen that before.
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How about room addition sq ft price.Considering you have to peal off the siding to attach new build. knock out walls to open it up to the addition. so many things you dont have with a new frame this one is 18x18 4/12 roof not asking for a materail price with that that would be to hard to break down for you.just basic frame price new homes are going for about 170,00a ft here.I was thinking about 90.00 a ft ?
I go $100.-110 s.f on a basic addition, nothing fancy, material, subs everything. A home in this area is going for $150 s.f.
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interesting. never seen that before.
I did a little post on expansive soil somewhere which the Colorado front range seems to have the worst of.

Our foundation designs can be on 40 to 60 foot deep cassions or sometimes we can do 10 to 20 ft overdigs below the foundation disposing of the clays and replacing with road base. Our foundations are generally without spread footings, sometimes done with voids for more consentrated loading, and always poured reinforced concrete. No block foundations on this moving soil.

If the clay can be kept dry it does not move so careful attention to drainage is another biggie here.

In my county the swell soil is only found in 25% of the areas but the guys get used to doing floating walls so they just do them all the time regardless of whether they are required.
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They're showing a 3" void. Last i knew we were doing 1-1/2 " voids.
Yeah... we are still only doing 1 1/2" (actually I do 2" to avoid the overzealous inspector ) 3" would be crazy. I would think you would need to put spikes in every stud bay if you float 3"
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Well I went in at 150 sq ft total cost 91,000 But thats a 18x18 in back and a 16x20 in front and convert the garage also. So he says well I only have 60,000 to spend. I said well let me think and I'll get back to youSo I called him back and told him wait till wenter and I would do T-M on it at 50,00 a hour plus my guys wages so its on for the wenter cant get hert that way
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Well I went in at 150 sq ft total cost 91,000 But thats a 18x18 in back and a 16x20 in front and convert the garage also. So he says well I only have 60,000 to spend. I said well let me think and I'll get back to youSo I called him back and told him wait till wenter and I would do T-M on it at 50,00 a hour plus my guys wages so its on for the wenter cant get hert that way
sounds like you made a good call. you know more about what the market will bear in az. your first instinct @ $90 was probably right. And if you figured it out earlier at that price and could of made good money @90, then theres no sense in getting greedy. I lost a job a couple of months ago, because i bid the job $10,000. high when my gut new what to really bid
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Hey Rob, I am thinking about not framing as much and had someone iquire about a garage. Do you want to PM me a cost to frame (just labor) a 27' X 27' Garage with 12' 2x6 @ 16" O.C walls on a monolithic slab 4:12 gable roof with trusses @ 24" O.C. 2 9'x10' garage doors 1 36" person door and 2 windows probably 4'x4' 1' overhangs all around with 8" fascia. The project would be out in Falcon as well.

If you have any other questions just ask and I will get the info to you.

Just trying to get a feel for if it would be worth my time just to GC these kind of projects instead of getting out and swinging the hammer myself.
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Hey Rob, I am thinking about not framing as much and had someone iquire about a garage. Do you want to PM me a cost to frame (just labor) a 27' X 27' Garage with 12' 2x6 @ 16" O.C walls on a monolithic slab 4:12 gable roof with trusses @ 24" O.C. 2 9'x10' garage doors 1 36" person door and 2 windows probably 4'x4' 1' overhangs all around with 8" fascia. The project would be out in Falcon as well.

If you have any other questions just ask and I will get the info to you.

Just trying to get a feel for if it would be worth my time just to GC these kind of projects instead of getting out and swinging the hammer myself.
Hey Robert, because its 12' 2x6 walls, $4. s.f. which comes to $2,916.
let me know if that works for you and i would be glad to frame it for you.

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