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Old 01-01-2008, 06:03 PM   #1
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I have been framing now for about 20 years and been charging right around 3.00 SF This is for
Typical 1 story home with 8' tall walls
beams, joists, blocking, bridging
3/4 T&G sub floor plywood
All interior and exterior walls
Truss set (No boom truck or crane, GC covers that cost)
7/16" OSB sheathing on roof
15 lb felt dry in
2x6 sub fascia and 2x6 fly rafters
Attic access
Drywall nailer's

Extra is for
nails
Set windows and doors
decks
garages


does this price seem fair for the central VA area? I make good money doing it with my crew of 3, but I was just wondering how this compares to others?

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Old 01-01-2008, 07:18 PM   #2
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well sure doesnt hold a candle to what they get in some parts of western canada. Try around 17 per square foot. 3 seems pretty low to me though, i think going rate where i am goes anywhere between 5 ot upwards of 7.
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Just six months ago, the going rate was $5 including the windows set, now falling to a low of $2.75 I heard about the other day. I would not do it for that, unless I was out of options. Doing handyman work would pay better.
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Just six months ago, the going rate was $5 including the windows set, now falling to a low of $2.75 I heard about the other day. I would not do it for that, unless I was out of options. Doing handyman work would pay better.
I will not either, I will let them fight over that $$.
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If it hits 2.75 here, Ill quit and go to work for someone else!
But then again there are a lot of illegals working so that could drive the cost down too. But people do not realize they get what they pay for. 3 for me is not too bad because of my crew. There is me, my brother inlaw (Bout as umb as a 2x4, but a good laborer) and then my carpenter who used to be a super with one of the largest construction companies here in VA. He retired and lives next door, talk about handy?? pay him big bucks, and I get my moneys worth.
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Im from Los Angeles, my brother and I did alot of framing as subcontractors and ower prices for a single story house was @ $6 a sq/ft on a slab foundation then we charged extra for Shear wall, MST's, Interior walls, and Windows/Door installation

For houses with a raised foundation we charged $6 a sq/ft and extra for floor joist, interior walls, MST's, Shear wall and Windows/Door installation.

We did alot framing, enough to keep us busy for many years. made good money
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Psst, guys - if you keep using words like "the going rate," noobs who wander in here will think there is one. I thought we agreed that that phrase was short for "the going out of business rate." I guess now, we've at least got a thread to send them to.

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$3.00 a foot is a bargain. Especially if it's quality work, and you sound like a smart guy so I'm willing to bet you could be getting more.
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In Mn. I Am Charging 4.25 Includes Windows.. No Illegals!!!!
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It's all local COL and O/H.
Did one for $2.75, 8 years ago...
plates, truss', and deck,
on block mini-warehouse complex.
Gutter board extra, door surrounds extra.....
Biggest % profit in years.
At $3 living must be cheap,
and you guys must be fast!
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I probably could get more, but with this cost I make money and exept for this month usually we stay buisy 12 months a year
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If you can make "good money" @ $3/sf, then go for it but you could probably do better. If you do the extras (windows, doors, etc.) you mention above what does it work out to? Probably gets you in the $4 to $5 range which isn't too bad.

Since you are also a master plumber, definitely try to package your bids so that you get both the framing & plumbing.
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And I just realized you said a 1-story house which definitely helps keeps the costs/hassle factors to a minimum.
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One story homes make the job tougher in one sense because your roof is bigger, which in my book is the major part of the job. Though I do agree, not having to huff and puff items up two stories, where everything is at one level is great.

Your roof being a ballpark of twice the size for the same sf as a 2 story house, that's a lot extra work, just keep that in mind.

I've gotten spoiled with the prices around here so I can't really comment much on the $3/ft. I have done a few at the $2/ft and don't want to live life like that I can tell you that. More comfortable is 4, 5, 6 range, depending on how complex the job entails.

Drying in? I would say no thanks to that. That's a roofers job. They come by and paper it in a few hours.
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One story homes make the job tougher in one sense because your roof is bigger, which in my book is the major part of the job.

Your roof being a ballpark of twice the size for the same sf as a 2 story house, that's a lot extra work, just keep that in mind.
Why is a one story roof bigger/twice the size as a two story roof?

If I were to put a 5/12 hip roof on a 30x50 ranch house, why would that bigger bigger than the same 30x50 two story 5/12 hip roof house? Am I missing something?
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Why is a one story roof bigger/twice the size as a two story roof?
If I were to put a 5/12 hip roof on a 30x50 ranch house, why would that bigger bigger than the same 30x50 two story 5/12 hip roof house? Am I missing something?
30X50 roof covers a 1500 sf ranch,
or a 3000 sf 2 story.
1500 @ $3 = $4500
3000 @ $3 = $9000
Same roof.
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30X50 roof covers a 1500 sf ranch,
or a 3000 sf 2 story.
1500 @ $3 = $4500
3000 @ $3 = $9000
Same roof.

I guess hes charging more because it is 2 story, not that the roof is bigger, I do the same thing.
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Your roof being a ballpark of twice the size for the same sf as a 2 story house
How much more can I explain that? I'm talking about a home that has the same exact sf, but comparing a 1 story to a 2 story. It goes for the foundation also. Thats why per sf, one story homes are more $$$$ per sf than a 2 story.....same size!
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30X50 roof covers a 1500 sf ranch,
or a 3000 sf 2 story.
1500 @ $3 = $4500
3000 @ $3 = $9000
Same roof.
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One story homes make the job tougher in one sense because your roof is bigger, which in my book is the major part of the job.

Your roof being a ballpark of twice the size for the same sf as a 2 story house, that's a lot extra work, just keep that in mind.
What am I still missing. He said roof, not s/f of house. The roof is not bigger. Has nothing to do with the roof. The roof is still the same size even if it's three stories.
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How much more can I explain that? I'm talking about a home that has the same exact sf, but comparing a 1 story to a 2 story. It goes for the foundation also. Thats why per sf, one story homes are more $$$$ per sf than a 2 story.....same size!
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One story homes make the job tougher in one sense because your roof is bigger, which in my book is the major part of the job.

Your roof being a ballpark of twice the size for the same sf as a 2 story house, that's a lot extra work, just keep that in mind.
You did say the roof was bigger. I know what s/f of house means. If I'm telling you that I'm framing a 30x50 ranch house with a 5/12 hip roof, I'm telling you that I'm framing a 1500 s/f home. If I'm framing a 30x50 s/f two story house, I'm telling you that I'm framing a 3000 s/f home. Has nothing to do with the roof being bigger. That's why you threw me off.
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