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Re: Efficent Framing.
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Where do you keep them.....in your belt? 40' in the air? It's a great idea, but they are more of a hassle come truss day IMO!
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Re: Efficent Framing.
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Ground man can nail em on. Used them and they work good,Just have to double check for stretching off layout if they aren't nailed consistantly. Without a ground man,we've kept a box on top of rolling bakers or a plank stretched across plates.
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Re: Efficent Framing.Quote:
I have been curious to try those! Do they cause the truss layout to "creep up"? I and anal about my blocks being 22 7/16" which seems to keep the 2' centers working over the length of the building. Your pic looks like it requires an actual nail... I seem to recall seeing some that had a built in cleat that you just smacked them in place with hammer. |
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Re: Efficent Framing.
actual nail... I seem to recall seeing some that had a built in cleat that you just smacked them in place with hammer.
Yep I would trust that!
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Re: Efficent Framing.
Now, that's cool! I could be happy with that setup. Spacing and cleat, all in one... And you can leave it in place. Looks like you can get two nails in each end... from different directions. That one ain't comin' out.
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Re: Efficent Framing.
What do those things cost though? Made by Simpson, so I know they wont be cheap!
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Re: Efficent Framing.
$11.50 for a box of 50. Seems like too much
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Re: Efficent Framing.That's 23 cents apiece... that can't be right.
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Re: Efficent Framing.
I'm not stirring the pot here. Just asking a question.
But do all those precut 2x4's you use all end up in the frame some where or in the debris pile? How much are they worth?
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Re: Efficent Framing.
$111.50 my bad Gus
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Re: Efficent Framing.
We use most of those precuts for permanent truss bracing. I dont think I have ever thrown a precut in the dumpster. You can also cut them into blocks for soffits and such. You can turn a precut into blocks, but you can't turn blocks into precuts.
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You would shoot someone for the stuff in some of the debris piles I get to see when I go to measure a job right after the sticks are done. I wish i took a picture of one in particular last week. I could have framed a decent shed out of that pile. Made me wanna puke. $2.25 a piece would make those brackets a tough nut to swallow.
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Re: Efficent Framing.
Often when doing a house that has several two story walls, we will schedule a crane to lift them. We will usually have the rest of the walls braced and layed out so that we can boom up some joists and plywood. There have been several times, when we have built a two story wall on the second floor deck, and lowered it down into position. I am constanly looking for the easiest and/or best way to do just about everything on the jobsite.
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Re: Efficent Framing.
I have used the folding spacers for setting trusses. They are not intended for structural bracing, but work well to get them up and running. I have used them on stick framed roofs to set layout on long rafters to eliminate pulling layouts while sheathing. If layout starts to creap, you can easily hack one loose to get your butts to break.
They are much more reasonable cost wise and there is no removal, just sheath over them. Last edited by loneframer; 08-29-2009 at 10:12 PM. |
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Re: Efficent Framing.
Warren, must be an Ohio thing because your truss setting process is identical to the way I've always done it. I'm not doing the "killer cleat" thing because I've heard some horror stories. I saw the Simpson spacers a few years back but I've never had an issue with my current method, with the exception of one time. And that was a poor tag-line guy so I attributed it to user-error.
Loneframer, please expand on the fire-rating if you could. Did I misunderstand, or do you guys have to double sheath your decks?
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Re: Efficent Framing.Quote:
That picture of your new avitar makes your butt look big. ![]()
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