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Re: Anyone Have Pictures Of Vaulted Ceilings Stick Framed?Quote:
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look "intentional". The problem here is gonna be if he can't work a post into the end that ties in to the existing house. It's going to take more understanding of carrying capacity than I've seen here, if he needs another beam or header to pick up that end. I just don't see enough understanding of the forces involved, or even what really holds a house together. No offense Turnkey but you're in way over your head, and this stuff does matter. As usual Max nice drawings, I haven't taken time to calculate the depth of the beam, did you? (would have SWAGed 16") Even with your "prompt and cheerful free drafting service" I don't think Turnkey is seeing the whole picture here, I'd hate to see him take your example as gospel if you only intended it as an illustration of principles. BTW back here I wouldn't need the collar ties if I have hangers, unless it was much steeper/taller.
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![]() http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL293.../166819146.jpg http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL293.../164184902.jpg http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL293.../140715187.jpg http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL293.../140715179.jpg http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL293.../144097366.jpg http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL293.../144097369.jpg http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL293.../144097377.jpg http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL293.../118330358.jpg These next few pictures or from the frame we are on http://picasaweb.google.com/TimothyU...41791686607122 You can click through the pictures there to see more pics and I can get some from inside when we get back out there. Snowing today. I would recommend stick framing that section of roof. It is easy to do and will give you more options for interior framing. |
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Re: Anyone Have Pictures Of Vaulted Ceilings Stick Framed?
Hey guys,
Well I see in a post that some may think that I am in over my head. I have a family to raise and support because my wife is a stay at home mom. I dont know about you guys but I may have not done a lot of house framing to learn about structural ridges and my dad who taught me about framing and remodeling didnt really get into complex framing because he stayed busy without having to get into it. I am trying to get into the work myself though because I can do the framing where he is getting older and doesnt want to do it. I ask you guys about the whole vaulted ceiling to learn what I may not know and to understand it as well. I didnt understand the drawing at first. Then as I thought about it and talked to the guy at structural products I realized what a ridge beam is. I always thought that a ridge board was the same and didnt realize there were 2 different things. I see why you are yall are saying to use 2x12's now. 1 board to cut per rafter instead of having to cut 2 different boards a whole bunch. The pics that Timuhler posted have definately helped in the understanding. It put Wallmaxx's drawing into perspective and in real life for me. I hope to one day maybe not right now but to be able to get on here and answer others questions about the same type subjects and give them a respectful answer. I appreciate all you guys do in helping me out on these issues and is definatley helping me out in the estimation stage as well as in the actual framing stages. I can normally ask my dad most of this and he will know but he is in Florida waiting on his mom to pass and then heading on a cruise so you guys were the only other choice to ask besides going and talking to a local framer and getting a b***s**t answer because he thinks that I am stealing work from them. Although it is slow our refferals have kept us plenty busy and many of the contractors are jealous. So you guys all that have posted on here I appreciate all the information and advice that you bring to the Forum!!! |
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Re: Anyone Have Pictures Of Vaulted Ceilings Stick Framed?
Hey guys,
Well I see in a post that some may think that I am in over my head. I have a family to raise and support because my wife is a stay at home mom. I dont know about you guys but I may have not done a lot of house framing to learn about structural ridges and my dad who taught me about framing and remodeling didnt really get into complex framing because he stayed busy without having to get into it. I am trying to get into the work myself though because I can do the framing where he is getting older and doesnt want to do it. I ask you guys about the whole vaulted ceiling to learn what I may not know and to understand it as well. I didnt understand the drawing at first. Then as I thought about it and talked to the guy at structural products I realized what a ridge beam is. I always thought that a ridge board was the same and didnt realize there were 2 different things. I see why you are yall are saying to use 2x12's now. 1 board to cut per rafter instead of having to cut 2 different boards a whole bunch. The pics that Timuhler posted have definately helped in the understanding. It put Wallmaxx's drawing into perspective and in real life for me. I hope to one day maybe not right now but to be able to get on here and answer others questions about the same type subjects and give them a respectful answer. I appreciate all you guys do in helping me out on these issues and is definatley helping me out in the estimation stage as well as in the actual framing stages. I can normally ask my dad most of this and he will know but he is in Florida waiting on his mom to pass and then heading on a cruise so you guys were the only other choice to ask besides going and talking to a local framer and getting a b***s**t answer because he thinks that I am stealing work from them. Although it is slow our refferals have kept us plenty busy and many of the contractors are jealous. So you guys all that have posted on here I appreciate all the information and advice that you bring to the Forum!!! |
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Re: Anyone Have Pictures Of Vaulted Ceilings Stick Framed?
Tim
in your first pic I see some very tall v notched bird blocks - I've never used or installed them....what's the skinny on them? |
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Re: Anyone Have Pictures Of Vaulted Ceilings Stick Framed?
Insulation baffles with "V" for ventilation?
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Re: Anyone Have Pictures Of Vaulted Ceilings Stick Framed?Quote:
Because that house was mostly vaulted, I cut a v notch to allow air to pass through from the eaves vents to the ridge vent. I went with dimensional for most of the valley jacks because the hangers were $50 a peice. |
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