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Old 01-08-2009, 06:23 PM   #1
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2X2 Framing


I need to squezzzzz another 1.75 inches for the kitchen Im doing. My question is has anyone converted a 2X4 to a 2X2 NON load bearing interior wall before? Although rare I do see 2X2 framing in residential once in a while.
I am planning on turning 2X4 lengthwise up against the 2X2's as well.

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Old 01-08-2009, 06:29 PM   #2
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You can do it, as long as it's not load bearing, though it may look weird to some people.
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Re: 2X2 Framing


Lots of 60's tract houses had
2X2 partition walls (National
even had 2X3 exterior walls ).
I'd think steel "U" studs flat wise
might be stiffer though.
Especially in pairs facing opposite
directions.
Just a random thought......
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I'd think steel "U" studs flat wise
might be stiffer though.
Especially in pairs facing opposite
directions.
Just a random thought......

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All the old walls in ballon framed houses were on the flat, of course with lath and plaster they seemed normal thickness. If it is your only option go for it, could you figure a way to skin it with ply before sheetrock?
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I would use 1-5/8" steel studs.
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Just be advised that any electrical in that wall will be more expensive due to the material needed to accommodate the thin walls .
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All the old walls in ballon framed houses were on the flat, of course with lath and plaster they seemed normal thickness. If it is your only option go for it, could you figure a way to skin it with ply before sheetrock?
Ive never seen any like that.
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Ive never seen any like that.
then you need to get around more. Tons of 2x4 on the flat walls in old homes in the northeast.
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Ive never seen any like that.
I see it everday. every row house in dc with orignal walls have it
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Most of them hereabouts are
oak or old growth fir though.
The lathers and plasterers could
make up for a lot of sins too.
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Sure enough Neo, most around here were framed green with Oak. Dont get any ideas tree huggers, there were no 'Green Practices' back then, unless you count not having electricity. These were framed with fresh cut lumber, and left the shell to stand for up to a year sometimes so the lumber could naturally dry. I tell you what, that makes for some hard ass lumber in these old houses. I am getting ready to dig into one that was built in 1850. It is built like an old barn, timber framed shell. I bet I will find me some suprises in there!
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I see it everday. every row house in dc with orignal walls have it
You guys are talking bout partitions right, not ext walls? I have seen scrap t&g subfloor in some old farm house walls on the flat. Must have lasted 150 yrs!! We over build.
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You guys are talking bout partitions right, not ext walls? I have seen scrap t&g subfloor in some old farm house walls on the flat. Must have lasted 150 yrs!! We over build.
yes interior walls
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All the interior walls of my Mom's home, built in 1960, are 2x2.....and 3/8 rock. I think that house cost around 12k when my parents had it built.
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I've had to do this before. I stapled 1 1/2" wide rips of 3/4" plywood on both sides of the 2x2 inside the stud cavity for extra rigidity.
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I've had to do this before. I stapled 1 1/2" wide rips of 3/4" plywood on both sides of the 2x2 inside the stud cavity for extra rigidity.

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LvL rips work great as well! This, along with barn door rails and rollers is how we make our pocket doors.
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Ive never seen any like that.

Just gutted a triple decker (3 family) here in RI . Most of the interior partitions are framed flat. Kinda makes for alot of furring!
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