24" On Center Framing On Exterior Walls

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-12-2009, 10:37 PM   #1
Registered User
 
lunapark's Avatar
 
Trade: painting
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1

24" On Center Framing On Exterior Walls


Remodeling 1940's home and found 24" on center framing everywhere, including exterior walls and load bearing walls. Wondering if it needs to be shored up by placing studs in the middle to make it 12" on center?

lunapark is offline  
Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Old 09-12-2009, 10:47 PM   #2
Pro
 
Joe Carola's Avatar
 
Trade: Framing Contractor
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Caldwell, New Jersey
Posts: 1,541

Re: 24" On Center Framing On Exterior Walls


Quote:
Originally Posted by lunapark View Post
Remodeling 1940's home and found 24" on center framing everywhere, including exterior walls and load bearing walls. Wondering if it needs to be shored up by placing studs in the middle to make it 12" on center?
Why would it need to be after 69 years? Is something wrong with the walls? They do frame 24" centers walls. It's a Regional thing. So far I haven't framed 24" center walls.
__________________
Joe Carola
Joe Carola is offline  
Old 09-12-2009, 11:18 PM   #3
Curmudgeon
 
neolitic's Avatar
 
Trade: carpentry/remodeling/"Yes M'am we do"
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Beech Grove, Indiana, Birthplace of the "King of Cool"
Posts: 11,707

Re: 24" On Center Framing On Exterior Walls


Why would someone hire a painter
to reframe a 60 year old house?
__________________
Put your location in your profile!
(Sorry....it seems there really are dumb questions)
neolitic is offline  
Old 09-13-2009, 02:35 AM   #4
Pro
 
jhark123's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Enumclaw, WA
Posts: 858

Re: 24" On Center Framing On Exterior Walls


If you need to ask this question, you need to hire a carpenter to do the work
jhark123 is offline  
Old 09-13-2009, 02:53 AM   #5
I used to think so.......
 
wallmaxx's Avatar
 
Trade: My words are OPINIONS and hold no REAL value. 2012
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: WA State
Posts: 2,202

Re: 24" On Center Framing On Exterior Walls


I bet it was angled 3/4" ship lap on the outside and or lath and plaster (with the mesh) walls on the inside too.
wallmaxx is offline  
Old 09-13-2009, 05:48 AM   #6
paper hanger,painter
 
chris n's Avatar
 
Trade: wallpaper hanger,painter
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 904
Send a message via Yahoo to chris n

Re: 24" On Center Framing On Exterior Walls


Interesting topic. Not being a framer, carpenter, builder, etc, but a lowley paper hanger, painter,I have a question.

I was repairing a ceiling last week where the HO was in the attic and put his foot through the ceiling into the bedroom. After opening up the hole to attach some 2 by 4's for the patch found the joists were 24 in on center and was wondering if that was normal for somewhat new construction( about 10 years old)? Just curious as all I have ever seen is 16 in on center, but I mainly deal with older homes.
chris n is offline  
Old 09-13-2009, 06:00 AM   #7
The Duke
 
KentWhitten's Avatar
 
Trade: Cabinet Maker
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Portland, Maine
Posts: 10,087

Re: 24" On Center Framing On Exterior Walls


Quote:
Originally Posted by chris n View Post
Interesting topic. Not being a framer, carpenter, builder, etc, but a lowley paper hanger, painter,I have a question.

I was repairing a ceiling last week where the HO was in the attic and put his foot through the ceiling into the bedroom. After opening up the hole to attach some 2 by 4's for the patch found the joists were 24 in on center and was wondering if that was normal for somewhat new construction( about 10 years old)? Just curious as all I have ever seen is 16 in on center, but I mainly deal with older homes.
Yes, that's normal.
__________________
If you correct your mind, the rest of your life will fall into place ~Lao Tzu

Custom Cabinetry - Portland, Cape Elizabeth, Scarborough, Kennebunkport, Yarmouth, Falmouth, Cumberland, Ogunquit, Maine


Salmon Falls Cabinetry
KentWhitten is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to KentWhitten For This Useful Post:
chris n (09-14-2009)
Old 09-13-2009, 10:30 AM   #8
Curmudgeon
 
neolitic's Avatar
 
Trade: carpentry/remodeling/"Yes M'am we do"
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Beech Grove, Indiana, Birthplace of the "King of Cool"
Posts: 11,707

Re: 24" On Center Framing On Exterior Walls


Quote:
Originally Posted by chris n View Post
Interesting topic. Not being a framer, carpenter, builder, etc, but a lowley paper hanger, painter,I have a question.

I was repairing a ceiling last week where the HO was in the attic and put his foot through the ceiling into the bedroom. After opening up the hole to attach some 2 by 4's for the patch found the joists were 24 in on center and was wondering if that was normal for somewhat new construction( about 10 years old)? Just curious as all I have ever seen is 16 in on center, but I mainly deal with older homes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by framerman View Post
Yes, that's normal.
Especially if it's trusses.

No offense intended to you Chris.
__________________
Put your location in your profile!
(Sorry....it seems there really are dumb questions)
neolitic is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to neolitic For This Useful Post:
chris n (09-14-2009)
Old 09-13-2009, 11:15 AM   #9
Pro
 
Warren's Avatar
 
Trade: framing/remodeling
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 3,696

Re: 24" On Center Framing On Exterior Walls


Bout twenty years ago, we were framing condos that had walls at 24 oc. They also had the silver foam sheathing, followed by vinyl siding. If you knew where the studs were, you could probably kick a hole right through the exterior wall. This county allowed 24 oc until just a few years ago.
Warren is offline  
Old 09-13-2009, 11:53 AM   #10
Pro
 
UpNorth's Avatar
 
Trade: Engineer & Ret. GC
Join Date: May 2007
Location: 44deg15'43"N 74deg14'26"W
Posts: 830

Re: 24" On Center Framing On Exterior Walls


24 on center, exterior walls and roofs, is done routinely here in the north country.

90 pounds per square foot ground snow load, about 9000 heating degree days, seismic D1 design criteria, houses built circa 1840 have bays like that and wider.

If you aren't buying the lumber, and are being paid to frame, more wood makes sense. If you are paying for the wood, and paying to heat the place, less wood makes sense.

24 on center is fine with our AHJ, our state code, and meets most all structural requirements.

When engineers get involved in design, excess weight and material starts coming out. The body steel on automobiles has gotten much thinner, when compared with what it was in, say, the 1960s.

Wait until your elected congressional reps get done with cap'n'trade, and builders all have to go way beyond LEED. We'll see 24 centers everywhere.

Last edited by UpNorth; 09-13-2009 at 02:17 PM.
UpNorth is offline  


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Framing Documents To Die For NC2X4 Framing 33 09-17-2010 11:45 AM
Framing Safety Safety Guy Tools & Equipment 3 08-13-2009 09:46 PM
Commercial wood framing mckellarman Commercial Construction 2 05-06-2009 06:11 PM
Has anybody created a totally digital media center for themselves? Mike Finley Technology 14 01-05-2009 05:30 PM
24 on center vs 16 on center framing? Mike Finley Framing 106 07-17-2007 10:28 PM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

Privacy Badge
I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
ContractorTalk.com is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At ContractorTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?