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Old 02-19-2009, 07:10 PM   #1
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The "bead board" was an after thought so the base stuck proud of the end rail that is part of flat panel wainscoting on the other wall.... I tried several different returns before choosing to go up on the rail but didn't like any of it....maybe next time I bump into this I should mill my own base and make it thin? It is not painted yet...

I did this at my parents house and my mother is pleased with the look, but I am unsure of it myself...






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Old 02-19-2009, 07:40 PM   #2
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I had this situation before and decided to pack out the base flush to the face and just return it into the stile. Tried twenty options first. Thinning the base is a viable option too. Is that MDF beadboard?

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Another reason I try not to use shoe molding.
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http://www.garymkatz.com/TrimTechniq...ck_return.html

this works well, currently trying to get the general to let me use this method on the house im trimming, the baseboard is 5"x5/8" and fairly ornate, the casings are 2 3/4" x 3/8" colonial..... the tilers did an amazing job on this one so id like to have the base look good to match as opposed to the ****ty ol 22.5 snub cut as done on quarter round
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i think this would have worked for you... i have used it a few times.. it looks awesome when done

http://www.garymkatz.com/TrimTechniq...ck_return.html
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hahahahahaha!^ we must have read that almost the same time....
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Put the same stuff in my laudry room. yes mine is mdf beadboard. as usual, things are a little cheaper in my own house. i had the exact same problem with the outside corner moulding in mine. i used 1x4 with a basecap and the os corner was proud the top of the base cap i used. i tried everything in the world i could lthink of to fix it and as i stated before, my personal home doesn't get the same attention to detail that my jobs do. anyhow, i ended up doing nothing other than square cutting the os corner into the basecap. yes it does look like a donkey's butt, but it is finished and i don't think anyone has even noticed it but me.

it aggrivates me when the small details go unnoticed for anyone besides other pros. spend an hour or more sometimes to make something pass my inspection and no one ever notices.
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The "bead board" was an after thought so the base stuck proud of the end rail that is part of flat panel wainscoting on the other wall.... I tried several different returns before choosing to go up on the rail but didn't like any of it....maybe next time I bump into this I should mill my own base and make it thin? It is not painted yet...

I did this at my parents house and my mother is pleased with the look, but I am unsure of it myself...
I think I would do something like this:
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I have beadboard all over my house and yes, it's MDF, but I love this stuff.

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http://www.garymkatz.com/TrimTechniq...ck_return.html

this works well, currently trying to get the general to let me use this method on the house im trimming, the baseboard is 5"x5/8" and fairly ornate, the casings are 2 3/4" x 3/8" colonial..... the tilers did an amazing job on this one so id like to have the base look good to match as opposed to the ****ty ol 22.5 snub cut as done on quarter round
I call that a mitered return.
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A 1x 4 scribed to floor with the board set on top is what I would have wanted to have done. I know you're doing it for your folks though so, return it "unto" itself or the chamfer like the other guys suggested.
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I think I would do something like this:

That's how I handle those too.
Katz' returns look awkward to me.
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Sometimes less is more.
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That's how I handle those too.
Katz' returns look awkward to me.
x2 I would have done it like basswood. I would have made the ends bit more purtey though
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x2 I would have done it like basswood. I would have made the ends bit more purtey though
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I like to do it this way in this kind of situation.

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I like to do it this way in this kind of situation.

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That appears to be more easily "cad'ed" than done. Have you actually done this in the field? The reason I ask is I was wondering if that is some sort of custom made radius piece on the return. Seif
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Believe it or not, but that is katz 22.5 return on there...I tried that at first and just doing the 22.5/mitered return ended at the stile and then nipping the end off to meet up with the stile just as he writes. I too have read that online "memo" by him... but I just didn't like the way that looked...so I did a combo and wrapped it around and then the 22.5/mitered return... Scipio's does looks more pleasing to me... but hey, its always a learning curve. I also tried what Basswood had posted up in his photo, again I was not a fan in this application...it just looked unfinshed to me. Loneframer's idea could have worked...didn't even think about it, but that is another trick to add to the bag. I might have some of the trial runs laying around if they didn't make it to the trash yet...I will take a look and post some photos if I can find them.


Most of my self returns on base now are not the 45/45 any more, most of them I changed to the 22.5/22.5/45 because it is different and to me looks so much better...it just adds to the trim, if someone walks in that knows a little bit and see it, alot of the times they stop and look and are like "wow...that is different! I like it!". And yes, that is MDF "beadboard" 4x8 sheets. I also usally dislike the 22.5 snub cuts, to me they are just a quick production way, I usally always self-return.

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Old 02-19-2009, 11:07 PM   #19
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Im with basswood and neo on this one too. Thats the only way i have ever done it in that situation. Woodworks way looks good (awsome how to pics by the way) and tbfs way is a little much for my taste. Nobody i work for will pay me to fiddle for 30 minutes on something i could have done in 30 seconds. On the other hand i think that fancy door trim in woodworks pic wood have looked better with a rosette at the bottom and but the base to it like normal.
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Old 02-27-2009, 09:14 PM   #20
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Here is yet another way to end a base run... returned to the floor. Works nice in some situations. Used it here where the step ran into the bookcase, since I did that kind of dropping miter to negotiate the stair.
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