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Leo G

I do that on some things, but never a kitchen. Usually it is something that will need extensive scribing to fit into place that I don't want to take a chance of damaging the finish. That way when you go to install it it just fits in place.

What is the reason here?

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Gus Dering

That was my attempt at sarcasm.

Yes Paint on site

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Leo G

Wise ass.

You see, it is Kali, I figured it was possible.

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Gus Dering

I figured you would at least suspect that I was being a wise ass. At least I didn't keep you on the hook for long.

I love paint in place. All the caulking gets covered. Nails in the trim gets covered. And we can sand up any trouble spots.

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Leo G

That is the nice part about that kind of install. The moldings can be done nicer. I really like to have a softer edge on my moldings. Something you can't do with a prefinished molding. And it is nice for trouble spots. Nothing like a bit of sanding to make something look proper. This is the way almost all my installs use to be. Lots of 18th century stuff. Brush painted after, and they wanted to see some brush marks.

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Gus Dering

Preachin to the choir here Leo.

Plus we can treat everything a bit more aggressively without being on edge all day.

Bondo is a great thing too.

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Leo G

You tried out that new wood grain caulk? Comes in Cherry, Oak, Maple......

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Gus Dering

Sounds fishy but I'll bite.

Cough up the link. I'll check it out tomorrow.

good to chat with you Leo, been a while

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woodtradesman

you guys crack me up.

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What type of paint do you guys use? I have a white kitchen I am installing in a month and I am not sure what to use, I have used whit conversion varnish in the past but is there something better and easier?

Sorry bout the thread jack Gus J

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Leo G

The tougher the paint is the more it is a pain to put on. I usually ues a CV myself for colors because they are fade resistant, but I use a pre cat for clears because I don't like the water white of a clear CV. It is just bland and adds no character to the wood like a pre cat does. A slight amber, oil like look.

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Scribbles

I use a natural oil based stain before I clear with CV just to bring some character out in the wood, I agree on CV over bare wood, it looks like plastic. Can you put CV over caulk? I would not think so.

I cannot use pre cat, they make me sick to my stomach even with my respirator on, I think I may be allergic to something in them.

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Leo G

I have switched over to an AG/OV (Acid Gas/Organic Vapor) cartridge, so much better. I still have the same problem when putting a stain under the CV, no character, it is just flat. Doesn't matter what the sheen is.

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Gus Dering

Paint = Benjamin Moore - Oil Based - Iron Clad

I like a hint of a brush stroke in the painted finish. Even if the paint is sprayed on, the final coat can be back brushed.

Then if anything needs touched up down the line it can be done with a brush. Plus, a lot of homes I work in are older and the painted cabinet with the brush stroke finish looks like it "could" be original.

All the CV paint jobs are too "automotive" quality for me personally. I offer it up as an option as I can get finishers to do that on site as well but the HOs usually turn away from the price.

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Leo G

If you spray the first coat of primer, sand, then spray and back brush the second coat of primer then you can spray all the finish coats and still have the brushed look.

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Gus Dering

I stopped by this place today to readjust the doors after paint.

Progress

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Leo G

Why did you have to readjust the doors? Painters messed them up, why didn't they readjust them?

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Gus Dering

Painters are painters Leo. They got them real close but not good enough for our picky ways. Good to get them right before knobs and pulls.

This painter almost really messed us up once too. I'll tell that story later, gotta eat dinner.

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