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Double-A

Huh? A knob here?

I think your modeling software is a bit off.

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WNYcarpenter

Gus, you SOB....

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Gus Dering

It's all good when they are happy.

How about when they say "this turned out much better than we ever expected"

That good too


What do you mean? Doesn't everybody's fridge or freezer have a knob up there?
Must be a California thing.



Guess my eyes are starting to go. Good thing I can still sell job.

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Scribbles

Hey Gus what do you use for rendering your kitchens?

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Gus Dering

Cabinet Vision.
It's integrated with the cnc. Once the drawing is approved I export the code to the machine.
It's expensive but worth it.

Ya know you can even put knobs at the top of a freezer panel. Hard to get that flexibility with the competition.

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stp57

The classy work we have come to expect from you Gus.
Thanks for the photos,
Steve

Double-A

That's because they call it an "undocumented feature".

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Gus Dering

Let me get all techy on you.

That door is considered a base door. The knob is placed as a result of my defaults that I place on this job.

The door I had to" build " custom to match the interior doors then place an applied molding into the perimeter of the panels. All of which took my focus off the silly knob.

By simply selecting the opening I can get a pull down tab for the knobs/pulls. From there I can change anything I need as far as quantity and placement of said hardware.

In this case the best thing to do would be to import and place a dxf of a long pull on the left stile as I'm sure that is what will be done.

All these things take time and usually there is a full crew of electricians and plumbers waiting for shop drawings. As was with this job. So the focus is more about overall appearance and dead on accurate dimensions.

In this case I was struggling to please the HO's sense of design and fit all the appliances in a manner that pleased her. At the same time keep up with the progress of the job as I can't really draw until the frame is done.

I missed the knob, could have fixed it real easy. But the drawing got approved and the info got out in time.

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Leo G

That's OK, I usually don't even put knobs on my doors unless requested by the client. My program (eCabinet) requires you to place them separately and because they are drawn in 3D with many many small triangles they suck up a lot of computer processing time. So I just leave them off.

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neolitic

Snoopy is merely trying
to establish the same loving
brotherly relationship as you
have with Leo's outsourcing
habits.

He seems pretty good at it.

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Leo G

Hey! Gus is my sparring partner...go find your own

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Gus Dering

That's ok, let me take it a step further then.

That door is not connected directly to that cabinet.

The easiest way to build that cabinet is with an upper cabinet and extend the legs to the floor. So the program does not see that area as an opening and thus no option for a door.

I had to place a "sub assembly" on the upper cabinet. An "empty base cabinet" with the proper size so I could get my custom door where it was needed. The empty cabinet is just that, empty of all parts but still has all the characteristics needed to have parts show up in it or apply parts to it.

This program can do all of it, except send a warning message that there is a knob on a base door 82" AFF. But then again I'm sure someone could write a user created standard for that too.

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Gus Dering

Here is the mantel for the same house. Just in case someone finds it interesting at all.

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loneframer

Hey Gus, you may want to jump over to the fireplace mantle parts thread and lather it up with your vast knowledge of cabinetry.

Gus Dering

I would if I knew some of the answers over there.

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Leo G

It's a really nice mantle Gus. But it ain't no wheel.

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neolitic

Leo's the big wheel around here now.

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Gus Dering

We finally got to install this job this week.

Not too exciting just yet but getting there.

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Leo G

Gonna be painted on site?

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Gus Dering

Its all the rave out here in crazyville. Hang them then take them to the finisher and reinstall.

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