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Old 01-27-2007, 11:19 PM   #1
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i hate split frame door units.

i hate split frame door units.

i hate split frame door units.

give me solid door jamb and decorative door stop. let me build up the casing and know the art of finish carpentry isn't just smoke and mirrors.

i just finished hanging a house full of them. it took longer getting the cardboard corners and the thousand staples off of them than it took to plumb and hang them. no matter how you try, you can not get a consistant reveal on them the frame is cut wrong. it is ugly and cheap in my book. on jobs that i am the one over the job i will always upsell the door jambs and casing.


had to rant, sorry.

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Old 01-28-2007, 08:41 AM   #2
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i hate split frame door units.

i hate split frame door units.

i hate split frame door units.

give me solid door jamb and decorative door stop. let me build up the casing and know the art of finish carpentry isn't just smoke and mirrors.

i just finished hanging a house full of them. it took longer getting the cardboard corners and the thousand staples off of them than it took to plumb and hang them. no matter how you try, you can not get a consistant reveal on them the frame is cut wrong. it is ugly and cheap in my book. on jobs that i am the one over the job i will always upsell the door jambs and casing.


had to rant, sorry.
I hate Home Depot

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Old 01-28-2007, 11:25 AM   #3
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I hate Home Depot

I hate Home Depot

I hate Home Depot

Had to rant, sorry.
Now that is funny!
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:47 AM   #4
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Crap, the companies we use to do our trim work all use prehung doors, too, though.
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Old 01-28-2007, 12:42 PM   #5
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Crap, the companies we use to do our trim work all use prehung doors, too, though.
There is a difference between split jamb (not good) and full jamb (best)........although both are considered pre-hung.
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You are not equating all pre-hung door units with split jamb crap are you? Granted, I do go off on pre-hungs from time to time, when a whole job comes out with the hinges not mortised deep enough or the hinge screws sticking out of the hinge countersink because they are installed crooked or off center, or different reveals on each installed casing(our mill shop uses jamb materials with a reveal line scored into it, and they still can't follow it), but it still beats having to build all the door units.

Split jambs, agreed, they are trash and belong in apartment complexes, not homes.

Home Depot, agreed they have much junk, like any large retailer their goal is to sell, not set quality standards, but they are not the ultimate evil in the construction world as many like to portray them. I give that award to the bottom feeders in this trade who always do stuff at half the honest price, then have to use the lowest priced garbage they can buy for materials, the cheapest most unskilled labor they can drag out the local pub, and every half-assed method of building there is. It gets done, and since most homeowners don't know the difference until two years later when the project is falling apart, the construction trades as a whole get another bad rap.
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Old 01-28-2007, 01:04 PM   #7
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There is a difference between split jamb (not good) and full jamb (best)........although both are considered pre-hung.
Split jamb is what they use.

It's also what I have in my house, and i really don't see a problem with it.
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