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Table Saw Millwork Thread
So yesterday I did some router table millwork... today was the table saws turn. I milled up 126' of 5" stepped casing for a Victorian. This job will related to several threads as this casing will be Jack-Mitered and Backbanded and will have a cabinet head crown too.
This casing was made with one pass on the table saw, followed by a router table pass, and then 3 passes through the table saw on edge. Tomorrow I will ease the corners on the steps with a sanding and will hog out a relief cut on the back of the casing with the dado head. |
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Re: Table Saw Millwork Thread
more please
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Otay.
The smooth faces on the steps have not been sanded. I used a Freud Glueline Rip blade it produces very smooth cuts... great for this millwork application. The blade produces ribbons like this that are paper thin and uber-smooth. Also here is a pic with a couple of steps cut and one of the pile ready for easing of the step corners. I'll check in later... off on a bike ride.
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Re: Table Saw Millwork Thread
Nise set up, Bass
Sure will suck if you are few feet short though.
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Re: Table Saw Millwork Thread![]() ![]() ![]() I've done that.....
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Re: Table Saw Millwork Thread
you cut stuff short too??
me too!!
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I've never done that
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Nice work Bass... You'd give Norm a serious run for his money.
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Re: Table Saw Millwork Thread
I cut it three times and it's still to short
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Re: Table Saw Millwork Thread
Another new saw blade,3 dozen spring clamps--
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Re: Table Saw Millwork Thread
Stop using the 1" mark for your exact measurements. Use the 10" line, if you screw up by 10" you deserve to have to remake it.
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Here are a couple of pics of the "relief cut" set-up... I was dialing in the layout and depth... the shallower cut (3/32") is what I went with. It took 4 passes, but only two set-ups--run--flip end for end and rerun--move fence 3/4"--repeat. Making these shallow and wide dados in this set of millwork took one hour. |
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The good blade helps, but the featherboards are the key. A few times I failed to keep the boards tight to the table and got bumps in the step line. I re-ran and couple that I noticed, but this one I missed and the saw was switched to the dado head... so I got out my straight-edge and utility knife and just fixed it... took just a few seconds to shave it back to the line: |
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How much time you got into them moldings Bass? A 2 1/2" cutter for my W&H costs about $80 and you could run a 10' length in about 1 minute the way I have it setup.
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1 hour set-up 4 hours milling faces 1 hour plowing out backs 3 hours sanding, etc. 10 hours total x $60/hr = $600 labor Material: = $150 wood Total: $750 or 5.95/lf for custom 5" casing... seems fair to me. ![]() I think the mill wanted a couple hundred for knives and set up and it was going the be a wash so I just did it... work being scarce and all... or so I hear. For any larger run than this a shaper and power feed or W&H would be nice... but you know me... I still used a folding rule today.
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$80 for cutters
$150 for wood add 15% $173 1 hour to size blanks $ 1 hour to hog out back $ $1.69/lf to run using my formula (125') $211 about 15 minutes to run. 1 hour to sand, maybe $ $465.00 using 3 hours 15 minutes time. $3.72/ft But of course that doesn't include the W&H setup which is about $2500 Usually if I am running mote than 50' of something I want to make a W&H cutter.
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Re: Table Saw Millwork Thread
I do this kinda thing by the hour... so you could say I'm a production trim carpenter... I produce as many billable hours as possible.
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