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Old 09-13-2008, 01:05 AM   #1
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Stair Help


Hi,
I am new to forum and good to see tons of useful information. I plan to install hardwood on my stair after removing the carpet.

I need the stair guys expertise advice on how to overcome my stair issue.

1) As you can see in the pic, the tread is cupped. I believe its construction grade pin of sort. The stair is very squeeky and you can feel the tread move as you climb. What is the best solution to remedy this ? Would installing a full tread resolve the noise ? what about the cupping, if i fill with PL glue..would that help ?


2) How do i resolve the difference in riser height as i will be installing the 1" thick treads directly over the existing one ?

3) I would really like to to cut the stringer and exposed the treads on the right side of this stair to get a side return look...but i guess that would make the whole stair structurally unsound due to its box/mortised tread design...correct ?

4) where should i look to buy treads in NJ ? HD has pine for $10 a piece. One mill shop quoted me $8.50 /LF for maple. Still contemplating whether to use pine/oak/maple. Maple because the flooring will be engineering select maple. Oak because i could stain it mahogony with white riser...should contrast good with maple floor. And pine because its cheep and just apply coats of poly. BTW, I am on tight budget.
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:45 AM   #2
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Your a flooring contractor??????
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You have to take off all of your treads. You can't just add new wood on top of them. If you do that, you will be out of the allowable riser tolerance allowed by probably ALL stair codes in the US.

You are allowed a total accumulated amount of rise difference of 3/8" over the entire run of the stringer...in no more than 1/8" changes per riser.

You have some big decisions ahead. Dismantling stairs in a way that preserves them is challenging, but do-able.
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I'm sure you don't want to hear this,
but there isn't a good fix for that.
A guy who really knows stairs
might be able to do a fix,
and it would still be better, cheaper,
faster to rip it out and build new.
If you have access underneath,
you could shim and PL the treads
to retighten them, or do some
toe screws.
Then re-carpet.
Finished wood overlays are not
going to make you happy here.
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I'd say put the carpet back on them




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Thanks guys...i will just re-sand, stain and polyU. Than finish off with a carpet runner. May even looking into putting those false treads/riser kits. Again thanks for the advice.
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If you have access to the bottom of the stairs you can screw in glue blocks at all the riser to tread connections to try and stop the squeaks.But i think those yellow pine treads and risers will look beautiful once they are resurfaced, and finished. Try some small cove moulding under the bullnose to dress it up, and it may alleviate the squeak if it is glued too.
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