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Old 03-02-2008, 06:08 PM   #1
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Good evening,

I have a customer who’s basement was flooded when the adjacent creek over flowed. He is very concerned about moisture damaging the walls in the future and insists on using metal wall framing and ¼” wood paneling. I have no problem with the metal framing but I’m not aware of any fasteners designed to attach this paneling to metal framing. He also does not want drywall as a substrate for the paneling. Does anyone know of a fastener designed for this application?

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Old 03-02-2008, 06:21 PM   #2
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Charlie why don't you screw 1/2 plywood to the metal framing and then nail paneling to that. Now you can not push the paneling in.
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The owner wants "NO" wood.
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I think code requires drywall or
fire rated plywood walls for all
occupied spaces.
You might check and inform him.
DensArmor and other paperless
dry wall could help allay some of
his anxieties?
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If the paneling is getting painted and you can fill the holes, how about some trim head screws and glue. Heres a link. I believe home depot carries them.


http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/0715...osphate-Screws
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Good evening,

I have a customer who’s basement was flooded when the adjacent creek over flowed. He is very concerned about moisture damaging the walls in the future and insists on using metal wall framing and ¼” wood paneling. I have no problem with the metal framing but I’m not aware of any fasteners designed to attach this paneling to metal framing. He also does not want drywall as a substrate for the paneling. Does anyone know of a fastener designed for this application?

Thanks,
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There is none, you either nail it or glue it over drywall or directly to wood studs. Dens Armor Plus drywall first, screwing paneling to steel studs is just ridiculous. A DIY'er move.
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I was thinking trim head screws as well, you could even offer the client the extra upgrade to Stainless Steel, if he wants to foot the added cost. The fine thread works on the steel framing. I also agree with using the Densarmor paperless sheetrock for the substrate. Look up the information online for Densarmor and download/print it out for your customer.
What about the insulation? Consider rigid foam, rather than fiberglass batts.
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I can just picture it being like a movie set, someone bumping up against the wall and going right through it
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Some customers need to hear
one of Grandpa's quotes....
"And people in hell want ice water."
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Not sure how thick of panelling you're talking about, but if you're working under the IRC, the wall finish material is required to be at least 3/8" thick. Regular 1/4" panelling, by itself, would be a violation. Screwing plywood to the studs and nailing the panelling onto that would be a good way to solve both your problem and the code issue.
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How about horizontal furring strips. The paneling will need extra support unless it's 1/2" thick.
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How about sending this where it belongs ,the DIY forum, along with some of those crazy answerers.
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The owner wants "NO" wood.
Then why are you asking about screws to secure "wood" paneling
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Then why are you asking about screws to secure "wood" paneling
Because it's what the owner wants :-)
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Setting aside code issues, here's a detail we did a few years ago:



That's 1/4" maple veneer ply, fastened with exposed washered siding screws (as you would use on a pole barn).

We did this to enclose the mechanicals--the panels can be removed for service.
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Setting aside code issues, here's a detail we did a few years ago:



That's 1/4" maple veneer ply, fastened with exposed washered siding screws (as you would use on a pole barn).

We did this to enclose the mechanicals--the panels can be removed for service.
Thats SWEET Nice!!
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A better view:
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Cement board the wall and glue the panel to it.
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