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New Guy
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Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
Good evening,
I have a customer who’s basement was flooded when the adjacent creek over flowed. He is very concerned about moisture damaging the walls in the future and insists on using metal wall framing and ¼” wood paneling. I have no problem with the metal framing but I’m not aware of any fasteners designed to attach this paneling to metal framing. He also does not want drywall as a substrate for the paneling. Does anyone know of a fastener designed for this application? Thanks, Charlie |
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
Charlie why don't you screw 1/2 plywood to the metal framing and then nail paneling to that. Now you can not push the paneling in.
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
The owner wants "NO" wood.
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
I think code requires drywall or
fire rated plywood walls for all occupied spaces. You might check and inform him. DensArmor and other paperless dry wall could help allay some of his anxieties?
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
If the paneling is getting painted and you can fill the holes, how about some trim head screws and glue. Heres a link. I believe home depot carries them.
http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/0715...osphate-Screws |
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood PanelingQuote:
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
I was thinking trim head screws as well, you could even offer the client the extra upgrade to Stainless Steel, if he wants to foot the added cost. The fine thread works on the steel framing. I also agree with using the Densarmor paperless sheetrock for the substrate. Look up the information online for Densarmor and download/print it out for your customer.
What about the insulation? Consider rigid foam, rather than fiberglass batts.
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
I can just picture it being like a movie set, someone bumping up against the wall and going right through it
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
Some customers need to hear
one of Grandpa's quotes.... "And people in hell want ice water."
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
Not sure how thick of panelling you're talking about, but if you're working under the IRC, the wall finish material is required to be at least 3/8" thick. Regular 1/4" panelling, by itself, would be a violation. Screwing plywood to the studs and nailing the panelling onto that would be a good way to solve both your problem and the code issue.
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
How about horizontal furring strips. The paneling will need extra support unless it's 1/2" thick.
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
How about sending this where it belongs ,the DIY forum, along with some of those crazy answerers.
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
Then why are you asking about screws to secure "wood" paneling
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
Setting aside code issues, here's a detail we did a few years ago:
That's 1/4" maple veneer ply, fastened with exposed washered siding screws (as you would use on a pole barn). We did this to enclose the mechanicals--the panels can be removed for service.
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
Thats SWEET Nice!!
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Re: Screws For 4X8 Wood Paneling
A better view:
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