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04-01-2009, 10:31 AM
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Replaceing fixed glass windows
I'm working for a homeowner who used old slideing glass door blanks as windows in 2 floors of his house. Over the years the windows failed and need to be replaced. When they first put them in they used silicone on the inside of the 1x2 ceder stops and just scrap 2x4's to hold them in on the inside.. They installed these windows over 10 years ago. The homeowner wants to be able to replace these windows in the future if a problem comes up. I need some ideas on getting these old windows out and not hurting the 1x2 ceder on the outside, and also some ideas for a type of 'clip' or small 'L' bracket to hold the new glass in from the inside. He wants to hold the new windows tight against the stops and doesnt think that just the window liner/trim will hold it tight enough. There are 14 of these windows and they dont want to come out very easily 
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04-01-2009, 02:57 PM
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Not sure I get the question, but you aren't able to put stops on both sides of the glass and sandwich it into place?
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04-01-2009, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Deicide1
Not sure I get the question, but you aren't able to put stops on both sides of the glass and sandwich it into place?
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and with a bit of caulk.
I see no way around not using some sort of caulk.
Why doesn't he want a window that will open and close and have a screen maybe?
Your going to have to dig that silicone out of there before youcan get those window panes out, unless you want to break the crap out of them first.
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04-01-2009, 03:40 PM
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I just finished replacing a failed set of 8ft customs. There was so much caulk that it took much less time to tape them up and break the glass out. A little more cleanup but worth the effort.
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04-01-2009, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RTRCon
I need some ideas on getting these old windows out and not hurting the 1x2 ceder on the outside, and also some ideas for a type of 'clip' or small 'L' bracket to hold the new glass in from the inside.
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04-01-2009, 05:58 PM
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i would use a multi master with a scraper blade first, if the scraper doesnt work try an eblade.maybe hit it with a heat gun first
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04-02-2009, 08:47 AM
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Thanks for the replies.. Hes an older gent who doesnt want to use any chaulk or silicone when we put the new ones in.. We are going to use something like Tinstaafl suggested as a weather stripping, but hes worried that just the window liner wont hold the glass tight enough againt the weather strip. I thought about the multi master, and a great idea, cept I dont have one  Never thought about the heatgun thou?
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04-02-2009, 11:16 AM
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Capra aegagrus
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Originally Posted by RTRCon
I thought about the multi master, and a great idea, cept I dont have one  Never thought about the heatgun thou?
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The Multimaster is only $100. I just got one; haven't tried it in that scenario but it seems like it'd have a fair chance of saving you a lot of bad language. Guaranteed, it's a worthwhile toy... uh, tool investment, even if it doesn't work out for this particular job.
I have my doubts as to whether a heatgun would do much good.
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04-02-2009, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc.
and with a bit of caulk.
I see no way around not using some sort of caulk.
Why doesn't he want a window that will open and close and have a screen maybe?
Your going to have to dig that silicone out of there before youcan get those window panes out, unless you want to break the crap out of them first.
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Hey, do I really need to tell someone on a professional contractor forum to make sure they caulk the window in?
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04-02-2009, 05:31 PM
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whats with the 2x4s holding it in? was the windows never trimmed? after replacing the windows you can trim them properly with jambs and the jamb will hold the window from the inside.
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