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Old 11-24-2009, 08:29 PM   #21
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or..........
At least till loneframer puts you out of business with his composite door bottoms!

theres alot of angry carpenters, in loneframers neck of the woods! Theres nothing to repair!
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:00 PM   #22
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theres alot of angry carpenters, in loneframers neck of the woods! Theres nothing to repair!
Never fear, when looking down doesn't work anymore, look up. Lots of guys don't flash those doors at the brick moulding. The head jambs get funky in the corners, 'specially along the coast.
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Never fear, when looking down doesn't work anymore, look up. Lots of guys don't flash those doors at the brick moulding. The head jambs get funky in the corners, 'specially along the coast.
Yes,
Maybe you should also be fixing what caused the problem?
Its probably that step not letting the threshold drain, or flashing, or something. I know the home owner is trying to save money but any more water and that hardwood will be in worse shape than it already is and it will need to be replaced.
Oh, and the sub floor and framing are rotted out.
You thought that you were done!
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Maybe you should also be fixing what caused the problem?
Its probably that step not letting the threshold drain, or flashing, or something. I know the home owner is trying to save money but any more water and that hardwood will be in worse shape than it already is and it will need to be replaced.
Oh, and the sub floor and framing are rotted out.
You thought that you were done!
From what I understood from reading the entire thread was that this was a job for a HO that was moving out. From experience I know that Five Star would have had a tough time convincing HO to do anything other than making what looked bad, look good.
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I buy a solid pvc jamb from the supplier & use 6" pieces off of it to do repairs. I do a 45 cut to splice it to the existing jamb, shim & seal off the seam.
I would rather use a composite jamb, but I haven't found full jambs made of composite material.
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Just hung a therma tru with dura plast jambs and smooth star fiberglass door a couple of months ago. Not really a composite, but heavy platic jambs with a vinyl brick mold. I will hang more of them. Nothing to rot.

Five Star, what did the bottom of thedoor itself look like? Was it a metal or fiberglass?
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I would guess that door has no overhang above it, also consider the exposure N-S-E-W. Certain exposures that get hit with driving rain will have that problem. Tree coverage, conditions that dont dry out quickly. And of coarse pitch, if the water sits, there is no chance. Finally the pine and FJ cores often associated with these new prehung units and quick growth lumber love to WICK up water, GMOD
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I was just pointing out that there is potentially more work to be had at that house, not implying anything else sorry if it came out any other way.
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I was just pointing out that there is potentially more work to be had at that house, not implying anything else sorry if it came out any other way.
The house was vacant, waiting for the new owners. I did leave a buiness card behind!
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Nice job!

Thanks, I used to walk away from these, but this year i did around 10 of these !

This one took a 1/2 a day from start to finish
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Yea, I haven't seen jambs quite like that around these parts.
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Yes but thats thicker than a jamb, that piece is 2" x 2 1/2" i never seen around here pvc trim 2" thick
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In cases of a center hinged door or one with a sidelight, You can use two pieces of standard jamb back to back. I have had a few cases where I had to plane them down a little to get the proper thickness. This is something we see alot in Florida. Usually fast growing soft pine used in jambs. Improper installation and painting are also common. In most cases, there is not enough of an overhang and water bounces off of a deck or the ground back up onto the door.

The biggest problem I see when people do these patches is that they don't reattach the jamb to the threshold. In the case of a center hinged door, the weight of the door is on that leg of the jamb. Over time, opening and closing the door will push the bottom of the jamb in or out creating more problems. If it is a side jamb leg, the threshold will eventually move. If I do this type of repair, I pull the door and reattach the jamb leg to the threshold. If it is a latch side, I just do the whole leg. In Florida, Lowes and Home Depot both sell composite jamb legs.
I hope this helps someone.
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i never understood a 2500$ door in a 25$ jamb
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I have not done one that I could not use a piece of composite or pvc jamb or stock to make my own trim. And make it blend in good.
This way I can actually tell the customer it is better than it was new. Why take a chance and only make it last another 6 years.
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i never understood a 2500$ door in a 25$ jamb

I like that statement alot.

It is just another way to cut corners in production, to keep costs down.

What is really more important, having a door that lasts or having a jamb that does?

Can't we get both? Yup, order it froma mill shop and tell them not to use that damn radiata pine!!
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Here in Western Washington, I consider a front door without a good overhang to be the seventh level of stupid.

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