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Old 01-11-2018, 08:00 PM   #1
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Will be installing some 1x4 VG fir window sills that I've pre fabbed, stained and varnished. A few have minor crooks in them. When I push them in on either end they fit nicely into the drywall return opening and against window but if I let go of one side it will pull away etc.

I'm hoping to use minimal, if any nails in the surface so looking for a way to reduce the amount of force required for them to sit nicely. The worst is only 1/4" but I have to push fairly hard to get both ends tight. I imagine removing some stock from the underside would help but worry I'm asking to damage one in the process.

I made up some elongated cove from the same material as an apron.

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Old 01-11-2018, 08:27 PM   #2
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What are you saying that the window has a bow or the framing? If it's the window scribe it if it's the framing shim it. Your're a carpenter right?

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Old 01-11-2018, 08:41 PM   #3
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I'm saying the sill has a crook in it. We can call it a bow if you want. There is no scribing involved here.
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A sharp block plane may be what you need if I understand correctly...
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Sorry, maybe I'm not explaining this properly. Let's say the sill has a crown in it, the window is straight, the wall is straight. I don't want to remove any material off of the back edge of the sill as that will change the overhang on the front of it. It would also not remove the crook (crown) from the front of the sill. Maybe this isn't a question worth asking.

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Shims, some construction adhesive and wedge sticks from the top.
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Thanks MF
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crook versus bow, 2 different animals.
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Exactly, and it's a crook that is what I'm asking about. So far nobody seems to understand the (correct) terminology I'm using.
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crook versus bow, 2 different animals.

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Old 01-11-2018, 11:11 PM   #10
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I realize that to have avoided this situation, jointing the material first is the best option. Now that I'm presented with trying to straighten a crook on a finished board without using mechanical fasteners, I thought maybe in the wealth of knowledge on this site existed a technique to help facilitate that. I'm a bit surprised by avenge's response as I think this is a valid question. Although MF didn't necessarily understand my question I appreciate the civil answer.
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Thanks, should have thought to post something like that myself.
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Terminology aside, if it doesn't fit right, the only way to make it fit is by removing material in the appropriate area. Or bend it into place by applying brute force with fasteners.

Seems to me the answer is self-evident.
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It absolutely is. Thanks for solving that for me. Thought maybe someone would suggest routering out some of the bottom or some kerfs. Who knows maybe someone has run into this before or we could have fun trying to problem solve or bounce ideas around.

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Terminology aside, if it doesn't fit right, the only way to make it fit is by removing material in the appropriate area. Or bend it into place by applying brute force with fasteners.

Seems to me the answer is self-evident.
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I've been reading this site for years, reluctant to join because of threads like this devolving into this redundant stupidity.

I honestly was hoping to be a participating member of the site to get better at what I do and am passionate about.

I will obviously figure this out when I go to install, it really is a no brainer, I'm not here in a panic looking for someone to hold my hand, I was trying to have an interesting conversation about one of the many little obstacles we encounter on a daily basis. I have some time to think about this while the painter finishes so I thought I'd post. For those I've upset, I'm sorry, for those who learned a new word today, you're welcome.
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I've been reading this site for years, reluctant to join because of threads like this devolving into this redundant stupidity.
Sorry, what stupidity? You ask how to make a misshaped piece of wood fit, and don't want to hear the answer that it needs to be shaped right?

The only alternative I can think of is modifying the window/opening to match your piece of wood. Yep, that would be practical.
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I asked if anyone had any ideas on how to reduce the amount of force required to straighten it. I obviously understand I need to physically push it straight... I thought maybe someone with a better understanding of wood grain and/or woodworking than myself might suggest something interesting like maybe some relief cuts 2/3 depth in the bottom. Simply trying to reduce the amount of spring in it so I can use fewer or smaller fasteners. I didn't realize asking a question about manipulating wood on this site was such a bone head move.
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I'm a bit surprised by avenge's response as I think this is a valid question.
Why? I was assuming the"crook" was somewhere other than the sills you made. Which begs the question why? Don't blame us for being confused you said you didn't want to take any off the underside but then you said you didn't want to take off any on the backside which by the way would involve scribing. But that wouldn't solve your problem of the effed up sill you made, It's not rocket science either force it and fasten it or make another sill without a "crook".
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Shims, some construction adhesive and wedge sticks from the top.


Wedge sticks to the opposite wall?




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[QUOTE=TheConstruct;6676186]redundant stupidity.[QUOTE]

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