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Panel And Picture Frame.
Panel and picture frame.
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
what kind of paneling are you doing? maybe a picture or drawing to show us what the final product should look like. there are many different styles that have different approches to getting the look you want. more info please.
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
Panel and picture frame.
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
if it's paint grade mdf, i'ld butt joint it and and bondo the seam, sand it flat. just don't get too agressive with the sanding and it'll look perfect. just watch for bumps in the wall that could make the seam not line up, might need to shim the seam to lay perfectly flat with the rest of the wall.
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
Panel and picture frame.
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
no problem, man. Oh, one other thing....you will want to use a factory edge of the mdf unless it is chipped up, it'll be square and make the seam line up better. good luck
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
Imagine it like a cabinet door...
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
Tailors sew seams.
Carpenters make joints. It's called joinery.
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
I would integrate rails and stiles on 4' or 8' centers to hide joints if at all possible. Otherwise I would probably use biscuit joinery. I don't think I would attempt a scarf joint on a big panel. Not the right application IMO.
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
Cut your full sheets to appropriate sizes so the styles fall on the joint. This will hide the joint and you won't have to deal with it. You will have to do a little thinking to get your sizes right instead of just laying out 49" or 97" lengths.
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
Panel and picture frame.
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
I said seam, cause some days my brain won't spit out the right word for me.
If you wouldn't use a scarf joint how would you do it? I agree with covering the joint with the picture frame, minimizes the chance of seeing it.
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.Quote:
I think he's talking about picture-frames only, - - no stiles. But yeah, - - I would still figure it so the joints fell under one side of the frame(s). |
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
What about routing a half lap joint? - lots of surface area to glue that way. Never had to join two sheets of MDF without being able to cover it with a stile.
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
You might also try to accentuate the joint by routing a decorative detail into it such as a bead on each piece like beadboard would have.
If it's going to be painted, a but joint with biscuits will probably be smooth enough to disappear after painting. |
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
I like to use a spline cutter in a hand held router when we have to join sheet goods with a visible joint.
If you prepare the edges of the sheet to a nice straight and square edge, the joint is strong and "seemless". We join veneer ply this way alot. In the field preparing those edges can be difficult. I would clamp or screw a straight rip of ply to the underside of the mdf and use a flush cutter in another router to nibble off an 1/8" or so. |
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
Panel and picture frame.
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
Lay it out so that the flat panel lies in a corner. In other words, wrap, the flat around the corner
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Re: Panel And Picture Frame.
Maybe you could make up outside corner "posts" that fit under the cap with a small reveal and run to the floor. You could rabbet them to lip over the paneling , So you don't have to be real accurate with all the panel ends.
Then but the base to the corner posts similar to a plinth block. Dress them up however you feel fit with a router. Of course you need ample room under the wainscot cap, seemslike a maybe. Badda bing badda boom, production Just thinkin out loud, so to speak |
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