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Old 10-24-2009, 10:20 PM   #61
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I guess I have cut some that smells musty. I didn't mean to say it always has a different smell, only a possibility.

What are we doing with this pile of stock Warner?

Kitchen floor, I have it all straight lined and almost ripped to width.

It will be a wide plank floor.

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Old 10-24-2009, 10:22 PM   #62
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Chestnut, poplar,walnut, butternut,
red oak, white oak, elm,ash, beech,
catalpa, locust,hickory,...........

That's too funny right there. Usually they used whatever was close to home. Go cut it down, mill it and build it. All most all the old barns around here are either white oak or chesnut.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:25 PM   #63
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looks like fir to me.


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VG hemlock fir
I thought that as well, untill I sliced some of these pieces up, now I am not so sure. I will tell you one thing, it did not smell like old fir. My orginal front and back doors are Fir. This stuff is harder than those fir doors.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:27 PM   #64
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I really, really think it is some American Chestnut.

I have a partial floor joist that smelled the same as this piece when I cut it.

I am certain it is not Oak.

I should go clean up one side of those old floor joists and see what it looks like.
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what about heart pine?

DING DING DING!!!!

He's right... It's heart pine. And yes, it flakes exactly like Warners last picture when left unfinished for a long time.

It was used a lot here on Long Island in the old homes, I have it in my own. It's a pain in the ass sanding off 75 years of neglect, but looks great when refinished.
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DING DING DING!!!!

He's right... It's heart pine. And yes, it flakes exactly like Warners last picture when left unfinished for a long time.

It was used a lot here on Long Island in the old homes, I have it in my own. It's a pain in the ass sanding off 75 years of neglect, but looks great when refinished.

I am not trying to argue but, I am certain it is probably not heart pine.

It is a rare find to find heart pine in any house around here.

Remember, Indiana was full of big old hard wood trees like, oak, elm, chestnut, hickory and such.

This is also an old farm house that was more than likley built with timber that was growing close.
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interesting thread.

found a great site for identifying wood species http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/:

comparing white oak and chestnut
http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/person...s/chestnut.htm
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Here is a link to the chestnut page:
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interesting read about the hardness scale at http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/ heart pine is close in hardness to white oak. no listing for chestnut though, but douglas fir and pine are half or less than half of the hardness. may be a way to rule out DF from your hit list.
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And the one for Ash: http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/ash.htm

Fir: http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/fir.htm

Can't find a good heart pine one.
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Here is some info on chestnut: http://www.woodfinder.com/woods/chestnut.php
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I'm comparing your floor from post #25(sanded) to mine and they look identical.. Also the flakey board is exactly like mine...
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Y'know... you mentioned Elm grows a lot out there.. It has a similar grain... I used some to build a table once, and remember the similarity to pine (and alder and maple, etc)
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Alex- you are right about the flakey board. That has happened to only 4 boards in the house. One thing, I have no knots either.

This actually kind of fun, I should go take a picture of a door I have from 1860 and let you guys try to figure out what it is.
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Still like to see a better shot
of that end grain, but it's hard
to compare real old growth grain
to new lumber.
Leaning more to ash or chestnut,
white oak is third and fading....
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I guess since it's your kitchen floor regardless of it's true identity, call it what ever you want.

I would call it ash to anyone that knew anything. But at a cocktail party with general civilians, I might refer to it as chestnut. It has a more exotic ring to it.
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I guess since it's your kitchen floor regardless of it's true identity, call it what ever you want.

I would call it ash to anyone that knew anything. But at a cocktail party with general civilians, I might refer to it as chestnut. It has a more exotic ring to it.
Hey old timer, the Ash is the crap on the saw horses, I know that!!!

It's the other stuff, I am not sure about!!

You been medicating tonight?
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Still like to see a better shot
of that end grain, but it's hard
to compare real old growth grain
to new lumber.
Leaning more to ash or chestnut,
white oak is third and fading....

What would you like to see?

A nice VG one?
More of a flat sawn one?
Rift sawn?
One with a pretty lady holding it?


or all of the above?

I can still clean up a side of that floor joist.
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Hey old timer, the Ash is the crap on the saw horses, I know that!!!

It's the other stuff, I am not sure about!!

You been medicating tonight?
Just one margarita with the fish tacos tonight. But at my age I don't need meds to be confused.

I left for a while and missed about 3 pages of babble about this dilemma of yours. I must have missed something. Please forgive me as I have flaws.
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