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Old 11-10-2017, 10:41 AM   #21
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..or maybe one of them wasn't cut upside down (like that left side)
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Old 11-10-2017, 10:59 AM   #22
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One of two things happened. The cut was not made at 45 or the crown slipped and when he cut it it wasn't nested properly at the spring angle.

It could be both. I usually make the crown I'm installing and it has wide flats to balance the crown on the chopsaw. Lumber yard crown is usually pretty thin and scant on the flats. It's best to have a stop on the chopsaw to align the spring angle properly and consistently.
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Yeah, but that looks familiar. Like when I forget to cut something upside down.
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The bevels wouldn't match like that if one pc was cut right side up.
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Little off topic, but the house I just worked on the builder has a coping machine, kind of like a key making machine, thought it was kind of neat.
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Copemaster.

I've always wanted one but for the amount of crown work I do it's probably not worth it. But if I ever come into so disposable cash, it's on the list.
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Copemaster.

I've always wanted one but for the amount of crown work I do it's probably not worth it. But if I ever come into so disposable cash, it's on the list.
If you don't have or want to expend the coin, a table saw and a steady hand does the same thing and doesn't require loading and unloading... starts doing it on MDF a while ago because coping MDF sucks...

MDF profiles take about 10-15 seconds, wood takes 30-60 seconds depending on the profile if you don't want to cope... some also use a grinder, but the table saw is more stable for more pronounced profiles... but there are pro's and con's to everything...

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If you don't have or want to expend the coin, a table saw and a steady hand does the same thing and doesn't require loading and unloading... starts doing it on MDF a while ago because coping MDF sucks...

MDF profiles take about 10-15 seconds, wood takes 30-60 seconds depending on the profile if you don't want to cope... some also use a grinder, but the table saw is more stable for more pronounced profiles... but there are pro's and con's to everything...


A table saw copes using same technique as a Copemaster, but they absolutely donít do the same thing.


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This second page has a lot of CSI work for one crappy joint.

My favorite job like this I did was I showed up to bat cleanup for a HO who had installed everything except the last foot going into the corner, on every corner. "Corners are the hard part." I waited for him to leave, then went out and bought full runs. I can't remember what I did with what I took down. Hopefully brought it to a slightly smaller house and used it there.
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A table saw copes using same technique as a Copemaster, but they absolutely don’t do the same thing.


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Maybe I should have been more clearer and said accomplishes the same thing sans the coin and loading/unloading... obviously templating using a blade versus free-hand using a blade are not the same thing... didn't think I needed to make the distinction...

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This second page has a lot of CSI work for one crappy joint.

My favorite job like this I did was I showed up to bat cleanup for a HO who had installed everything except the last foot going into the corner, on every corner. "Corners are the hard part." I waited for him to leave, then went out and bought full runs. I can't remember what I did with what I took down. Hopefully brought it to a slightly smaller house and used it there.
That reminds me of a glass tile backsplash mosaic job where the homeowner had installed "most of it, but wanted help with just all the edges."
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Here comes Tipi in 3...,2...,1.....


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Could also cut another 1/8th of the piece without the nails in it, then shim out the back of it to make the corner better...

or redo with cope saw and a new board.

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that is amazing. whats it cost
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I don't think that they make them any more. I picked up a used one for $600.
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They still make them. Someone started it up again.
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I'm trying to put the final piece of crown on after someone else couldn't finish. I think he just went with 45, but ended up at like a 55 degree angle somehow. Anyway, am I correct in saying his cut is too short on the long point?

His is on the left, my scrap on the right. Great part is the other side is exactly opposite.

I don't do much is any crown, but I don't think this is my screw up?



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The spring angle of the crown is installed wrong on both parts. Make the tops touch and fix the cut, so the bottom closes.
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And then twist the crow as you go along the wall until you reach another corner where by then you should be back to the proper spring angle on the wall.

If it is a very short run you'll have to keep playing the improper spring angle game until you can twist it into the correct angle.
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How cheap can people be? It's painted pine...

I'd tell the customer this is already the result of trying to save a $1... do you want it done correctly or gerry-rigged to accommodate the screw-up?

Which one do you want to live with...

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