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mics_54

surely THAT would never happen!

Gus Dering

Standard operating procedure for us is a 2 1/2" screw. And thats after the cabinet is already resting on a 1/2" hanging cleat.

Let the little rat hang from the cabinet. He'll rip the bloody door off first and then I have something to spank his ass with.

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WarnerConstInc.

I love GRK's. I even got a free shirt and hat from my rep.

Their screws are meant to be used anywhere in anything.

Torx heads spank square drives ass!!

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Leo G

The snapping strength of the screw is more important that the depth of the penetration into the stud. 1" or 1 1/2" into the stud isn't going to make much of a difference when you have lateral forces on the screw. The screw will likely never pull out, but it may break. Most screws are rated at at least 250lbs each. And most cabinets will have at least 2 screws in them, top and bottom, plus being attached to the cabinets on either side of it.

I don't see a screw pulling out anytime soon. Pulling through the back of the cabinet or pulling the cabinet apart is a more likely scenario. Especially with some of the construction I have seen on the box cabinets. 1/8" backs and 1/2" stretchers held on my hot melt glue and cheap staples that look like they are meant to hold paper together.

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J F

bueller? anyone, anyone?

WarnerConstInc.

I dont have too much need to pre-drill with thier screws. Sometimes you have to, most times not.

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mics_54

no predrill through faceframe? that's amazing.

BCConstruction

I have seen people run to long a screw into plumbing pipes in kitchens more times than i can remember. The main problem is most of the time you wont see a problem until the screw corrodes and leaks then by that time the whole kitchen has been finished.


Sounds just like the cabinets i launced across lowes sales floor the other day.

Gus Dering

I built a house in 94 and a trim nail in a piece of base hit a water pipe dead on straight.
Not a drip, not a hint there was a problem.

18 months later water was running down the pipe for 2 floors and showing up in the basement. Took that long to erode the nail enough for water to leak around it.

Took all day to find the leak. When the nail came out it was more than a drip.



I would pay money to see the tape of your visit to Lowes.

How did that meeting go for you?

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angus242

Problem is, you can't trust what someone has done before you. If we gut a kitchen, it's no problem. We use those little metal blocking plates to cover any pipes/water/electric that may be an issue. We also mark problem areas after drywall is up (as a reminder).

However, if you don't tear out the drywall, you have no idea what some clown may have done back there. In that case, we do a cabinet layout on the wall and check all possible stud location with a scanner to test for metal/electric. We've had good luck, so far.

I like the GRK screws. I think the ones I use are very similar (Lexus to Infinity) but I'd try those too. We use various lengths depending on the situation and we even have silver and brass colored. For connecting face frames, when we can't hide the screws, we match color to the hinges. For hanging, we use brass because they look better as most of the interiors are maple. Silver sticks out too much. And yes, I have been know to not pre-drill when connecting frames. I rarely pre-drill for hanging.

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angus242

I will sometimes predrill. If I do, it's just a small pilot hole, definitely not all the way through. I also use those pony clamps.

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cabinet runner

No doubt about that . Please tell me more .

Inner10

Too many sizes, square is only 4 and atleast 90% of square drive are #1 or #2.

Torx can handle alot of torque, that being said XZN can take even more.

WarnerConstInc.

Huh? Most common, are 10, 15, 20, 25. Most are 15 or 20.

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NCTRIM

i would use 2 1/2s and glue some hope and maybe have a beer to forget the whole job i hate prefab cabs good luck brother