Miter Saws

Mike772

Yes. Last year a local tool supplier started to offer blade sharpening. I am thrilled they did. Those 12" Freud industrial ultimate crosscut (96 teeth) blades are not cheap to replace. The odd thing is, I swear it comes back sharper than it was when the blade was new.

orson

Try Freud Diablo blades, they are hands down the best blade for the money. Their 12 inch blades rarely have any significant roundout(wobble) and if they do my supplier replaces them for free. They have different grades, the industrial is expensive but worth the extra money if you are getting resharpened.


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orson

The older deWalt has really aggravating bevel guage that is ridiculous to try to set at a precise bevel angle. By mounting the markings on a horizontal surfact you can hardly read them. The circumfrence of the guage is too small so the tick marks are too close together. It is almost impossible to read the bevel guage near zero because the saw arm is blocking your view. The new Dewalt model that has the extra deep cut has corrected these problems, however, added it's own host of downers. Imagine having something as simple as the cord coming out the back of the slide arm(working flawlessly) on the old saw and moving it to a place where it gets caught on the new design. Prime example of why I put no stock in DeWalt engineering.

And to take the cake, no detent override on the mitre for those "just off" cuts. My next 12" sliding mitre saw will be a Bosch

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TempestV

My dad has the old dewalt saw, and I've worked with it quite a bit- the bevel is a little hard to read, but I've never really been bothered by it. It might not have detent overrides, but as far as I can tell, you don't need them, considering that I can lock it within 1/2 or even 1/4 of a degree of a detent without a problem. Personally, I find it easier than the saws with the override that you have to activate to do the same thing.

orson

What about when you have to lock it at 1/8th or less off the detent? ever try that? Doesn't work so good and wastes a lot of time trying to lock it over and over as it slips into the detent.

this statement sounds smart alecky, sorry didn't mean it that way

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BTD

Freud by miles and sharp teeth. Never will use anything but 80 tooth Freud

2ndGen

Thanks BTD...Freud seems to be the consensus.

pknyryan

I have personally used all the big name 10 and 12 inch slidig miters and my list would go

1) hitachi 10"
2) Makita 10"
3)dewalt 12"
4) Bosch 12"

The Hitachi is number ne pick because it is light and simple, easy to read and adjust.

The Makita is great as well, except bevel isnt as easy to set as the Hitachi.

I wouln't buy the dewalt - way too heavy and the slide is crap. And it needs almost constant adjustments. I have a Makita for 5 years and I never had to adjust it.
I don't like the thumb adjustment setup on the Bosch at all. I won't use them. I see a lot of people like it. It is quite smooth toslide and very accurate.

TrimmanVa

Hitache 12' compound slide. Very versitile for every trim application.

Greg Di

I think you mean "runout" which is blade wobble.

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stp57

A lithium ion battery might actually make the cordless Makita worth the price.
Steve

TrimmanVa

I made a mistake on my post, i meant the hitache 10 in compound slide, the 12 in way to bulky .... Good luck

DEAD_ONConst

Without a DOUBT, Freud Diablo's! Damned things don't cut, They friggin' slice wood! Bolt that to a well tuned Ridgid DCSM and you are in business!

I do send my blades out to be sharpened as well. There is just no excuse not to. I have them reground until there is nothing left to sharpen and then it gets trashed. And you are basically getting 10 blades before it is worthless. Over the initial purchase of around 70.00 for a 80T blade and 10 additional sharpenings @ 15.00 I spend 230.00 over the life of the blade compared to 770.00 for 11 blades (1blade +10 sharpenings)

My choice for Saws are Ridgid! Right out of the box they work great and are accurate. I did make some adjustments to the slide to eliminate some wobble when pulled fully toward you. Then it was a matter of double checking the bed and fence square and the head plumb to the table. If you have to make adjustments, they are quick and easy with this saw.

It is accurate enough for trim work, but I have a single-bevel CMS, also a 12" Ridgid that I use for cabinetry/finish work when I want my miters and joints to be ABSOLUTELY precise.

john5mt

is there such thing as a well tuned rigid dcms? is there such thing?

chris klee

yep. use those blades on everything, circular saw has one framing blade and one finish blade, codrless saw has 2 blades, miter saw has one and table saw too.

i use a hitatchi 12" non slider. i didnt buy the saw and it wouldnt have been the one i chose, but it works great every time. my boss messed up my 10" delta that i had for a while and this was what he bought me to replace the one he broke. i dont use miter saws for framing, so it stays in better shape. this one is over 2 years old now and still in almost perfect shape.

having said that, i really like the new bosh saws out of all the ones i have
used reciently

chris klee

i thought wobble was side to side and runout was out of round?

JLTrim

They make a damn good blade. I spent all day today cutting 2x mahogany with one on my DeWalt 12" and every cut was clean and straight, even when I just had to slice a hair off a previous cut.

stp57

http://boschtools.com/Products/Tools....aspx?pid=3918

no up front controls, but still cool.
Steve

DEAD_ONConst

YEP, I have TWO of them! Both are ACCURATE to within 1/256th" in any axis!
I take great pride in my work, and as I am also a Master Certified Auto mechanic and build hi-performance engines and transmissions, I have a natural inclination toward accuracy. It took me about an hour to set-up and align my Sliding miter and about 45 minutes for the Compound miter, but When I need to nudge a miter because something is a little out of square, it isn't a problem for me. The biggest draw-back with the Slider is in fact the rail system, as is the case with ANY sliding miter saw. I looked at a brand new Makita and DeWalt yesterday and the had deflections of about 1/8"-3/16", OUT OF the BOX! My Ridgid wasn't that bad, and is better now. Now that's DEAD_ON!

neolitic

Anyone use the Freud "Avanti"?
(10" 80t, 12" 96t)
They used to make another
chromed one that looks like it,.
Can't remember the numbers,
and mine are worn off now.
L/S I got a great deal on one,
tried it, liked it, went back and
they were discontinued
Anyhow they were the equal of the
Forrest for ½ the money.
"Avanti's" look just like them.

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