Miter Folding With A Cnc Machine

gallerytungsten

It sounds to me like you are dealing with a lot of the issues that machinists deal with all the time. In fact, many of the points you mentioned are everyday problems in the metalworking world.

There is a book called "Machine Shop Trade Secrets" by James Harvey that you might find useful. Aside from any of his specific tricks, there's a lot of that kind of "engineering" thinking you mentioned.

woodworkbykirk

an engineer hmmm... do you getto wear the cool hat

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world llc

can't wait til i can afford some toys like that!!!

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basswood

Gus,

That is very cool. I might try that with my router and guide track.

Gus Dering

I'd like to hear what kind of results you come up with.
I suppose the set up would be a little finicky, but I guess you could pull it off if anyone could.
The amount of material being removed is substantial. A 3 1/2 horse router might be up to that kinda load. This one is 15 horse and you can hear it groan, just a little though

greg24k

Gus, thanks for taking the time and doing this little presentation. I don't care what Lone and Bass say about you...you ok in my book That toy you have there is a great investment and it is amazing the things that you can do with that. If I had a shop, I would get that in a second, without giving a second thought. Keep up the good work Bro

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Gus Dering

Wow! Don't know what to say to all that. Thanks

If I say too much I'll let the real self out and you'll end up taking it all back anyway.

it is alot of fun when it works out

basswood

I would just make a few progressive depth passes.

Here is a column capital set that almost looks like your miter fold:

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John Murphy

Some shops have complained about using Carton Sealing Tape for the face side of the mitrefold; particularly if you do it V Grooves and Casework often.

Make sure the film does not s-t-r-e-t-c-h in either the machine or the cross dirction. Otherwise your adhesive will ooze through the face side of the joint and now you have clean up issues.

Take care

crovello

Gus, when cutting that close to the table, how do you know the sheet goods are laying flat? Does the table have vacume?

Dave

J.C.

How long have you been using Cabinet Vision? We've only had it for about 6-7 months now and it sure can be a challenge at times. Another 10-20 years and I think I might be good at it.

Gus Dering

Yes it has vacuum. We have two 10 horse pumps. The vacuum is delivered by a bunch of holes in the deck and there are little dados that spread it around further. The suction goes right through the spoils board and holds the work peice tight in shear to the machine. Small parts can break loose sometimes.

Yes, the software can be challenging at times. It is very powerful though. Has tons of flexibility if you can figure out some of the tricks.

Do you subscribe to the annual tech support? I can't see not having that because when I need help I can get it. The forum is a great place to get help. There are some real good programers on there that love to help.

What version are you using?

Are you cut listing or cnc ing ?

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J.C.

Yep, the tech support is a must have. I've browsed threw the forums a couple times but only have access at work and I'm normally too busy doing other things. It would be nice to be able to spend a little more time checking it out but, I'm a little hesitant to carry around a $30K key to be able to access it from home.
We had 4.2 and just upgraded to 5.0 a month or two ago.
Everything gets cut on a CNC.

Gus Dering

The key is only $1500 if you lose it. At least that is what I have been told. Still worth keeping track of but it is not going to cost you the full price of the software package.

What do you guys do if you run into something you are stumped on if you are not posting up on the forum?

I have been using 5.0 for a few months now also. Seems like as soon as I really start to get the hang of it we get a new platform to learn. The new is always better in some ways than the last. But the bugs are always there to frustrate you too.

What were you doing before the splurge into CV ?

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J.C.

We just got the router at the beginning of the year. The router came with Alphacam and our first try at cabinet software was with KCD. KCD might be ok for design but it's almost worthless when it comes to the CNC part. They don't send out an integration tech to get the software working with the machine so after weeks of screwing around and almost getting it to work we learn even if we get it to work, it couldn't do half the stuff we wanted it to. i.e. no flip operations, no moving hinges, no moving shelves, etc. That's when we made the switch to CV.

If we can't figure something out, the first thing we do is try our CV salesman. He's been really great about helping us out. If it's something over his head that's when we give tech support a call.

Is the $1500 key replacement part of the yearly tech package? I remember reading something about that for the alphacam tech package but it sounded like the loss they covered also involved a police report. Loss due to theft, fire, etc. They didn't specifically state loss due to being an idiot and dropping it in a gutter somewhere.

PlaneWoodworker

Droools. Great setup

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