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Old 09-27-2008, 05:18 PM   #21
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I agree, - - just trying to demonstrate an option that kind of goes back to basics and might work for some situations some might find themselves in . . .


And P.S. If one was painted and one was stained I would treat the corresponding sides of the receiving block accordingly.

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I like it Tom. Nothing like one of your mockups!


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Thanks, Dave, - - I believe it's a fairly simple, yet unobtrusive way to handle it.

Coping two different molding profiles into each other is a noble effort indeed, - - but not one that would actually cross my mind.

Of course, - - mine is just one opinion of many . . .
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Thanks, Dave, - - I believe it's a fairly simple, yet unobtrusive way to handle it.

Coping two different molding profiles into each other is a noble effort indeed, - - but not one that would actually cross my mind.

Of course, - - mine is just one opinion of many . . .
Just caught your solution Tom, not bad! I think if it were on the wall it would look pretty decent.
The last time I joined 2 different crowns was finishing a kitchen and running the new crown into the crown on a 7'0" door. I think it took me 4 hours for that one piece, but the fussy customer accepted it. Not a fun way to spend 4 hours. I now try to spot these situations beforehand.
But good workaround you did on that crown.
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Thanks, Silver, - - just wish you guys would quit even mentioning coping differing 'crown into crown', - - it's making me want to go back out to the shop and try it just for the hell of it (). Seems very interesting (but yes, time-consuming).

This method I've pictured is very straight-forward and very quick, - - considering the situation . . .

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Thanks, Silver, - - just wish you guys would quit even mentioning coping differing 'crown into crown', - - it's making me want to go back out to the shop and try it just for the hell of it (). Seems very interesting (but yes, time-consuming).

This method I've pictured is very straight-forward and very quick, - - considering the situation . . .
Not really coping...
more like "coped scribe."
I've used your deal on same size,
not-quite-close-enough crown.
I think of it as the "splinter" block.

Was too dumb to think of that
as a way to do the different sizes.
Good solution, when you absolutely,
positively, can't do the right thing.
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Not really coping...
more like "coped scribe."

Maybe we should refer to it as 'scribbling' . . .
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Maybe we should refer to it as 'scribbling' . . .
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*Regarding Tom R's example
That is way better than what I imagined a 'block' would look. Nice job. I wonder, if the small crown was brown and the large white, what color would you make the corner piece? I would guess white would be least obtrusive.

*UPDATE: I didn't see there was a page 2 to this post. I can see that coloring each side of the piece respective of the color each adjoins would make most sense.

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Thanks Dok, - - yeah, the whole idea in a situation like this (at least in my opinion) is to keep the corner block as small as possible and therefore avoiding the whole intersection from possibly becoming an actual focal point . . .
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I think Tom should get an official Contractor Talk mock up maker of the year award.
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I think Tom should get an official Contractor Talk mock up maker of the year award.

Maybe even a 'Doctor Mock' t-shirt . . .
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I agree, - - just trying to demonstrate an option that kind of goes back to basics and might work for some situations some might find themselves in . . .


And P.S. If one was painted and one was stained I would treat the corresponding sides of the receiving block accordingly.

That does look really good Tom. I actually started down that path but found trouble with the disparity of the crown molding sizes. The ones in my pictures were not the actual job - they were from a previous job with the same problem. The biggest problem I had with the current (just finished) job was that the cabinet crown was 1 1/2" (45 degree) and the mdf was 4 1/2" (38 degree). It just looked weird any way I tried it.

In the end, she said that she had a friend that was coming down to Cali in the next month or so and would "fix" it for her. She said just to leave it and he would do it. Looks like no referral business from this one...

P.S. I actually did a mock up of the coping for her and it was probably a tie between that and just leaving the terminations as is. She didn't like the returns and she didn't like the larger mdf running right into the cabinets. I must not do mock ups as well as you though Tom because damn...that's some sexy crown molding.
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In the end, she said that she had a friend that was coming down to Cali in the next month or so and would "fix" it for her. She said just to leave it and he would do it. Looks like no referral business from this one...

Then again, - - what are the odds of him 'fixing' it??

It's not like it's an everyday problem . . .

(It amazes me you run into this so often).
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After 20 years and miles of crown mold in high rise condos and homes.I would say thats all you can do,and it looks good..The only other option is to stop the crown with like a fluted colum ...And she may not like that either...Tell her its time to pay up...
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Not really coping...
more like "coped scribe."
I don't have a pic of a "coped scribe," but I like the challenge of difficult scribing. Things that make people wonder "how did they do that?"

Here is a pic of two different materials, that were not supposed to meet (lack of planning), but provided an opportunity for scribing to mate a doorway to a stone fireplace.

These met at a 45* angle, so it is like coping, back beveling, a 22-1/2* cope and scribing...all because a design did not leave enough room for casing (an all too common error).

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Bass, - - you've got some really interesting 'inputs', - - glad to see you around here . . .
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Bass, - - you've got some really interesting 'inputs', - - glad to see you around here . . .
Thanks Tom,

Your solution would take less time than the "scribed cope," I think. Scribing different crowns together can use up several pieces, if you go too far and end up short. Don't always have the time or extra material needed.

G'day,

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I just just had this with my last kitchen.Technically what you did is correct.What else could you do???.Cope/scribe the small into the large and ask the owner if that looks better to them.If not then you have to let them know that the whole room has to be finished with the larger crown and rip out the smaller.Or with the smaller and a trim board installed on top of the cabinets . .I charged them for it because I explained it to them before anything was up and warned them about how having 2 different crowns with returns to end them might not look right to them.You did nothing wrong but you need to let the customer know that it will cost them to change it.I ran into this in the past and that is why I knew it might be a problem.It bit me in the butt the first time also.

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This is a job i did a couple months ago. Hope it helps.
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