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Old 03-18-2010, 10:15 AM   #1
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How I Handle Stock Not Being Long Enough.


One of my personal pet peeves is having to splice wide crown molding. I'm milling 5" crown for my new house & have a 19x15' room & only have 14' stock. Here's my board stretcher.
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:18 AM   #2
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Tried paying attention to grain orientation. Hopefully stain color will take as well from board as the grain did.

Getting ready to head to the shop & run the glued stock through the molder. I'll update this thread with finished crown.
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Don't hit the screws
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No board stretcher at your shop? That was the first tool I bought
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wouldn't a miter with similar grain selection produce the same result? (except be 10 times faster)
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wouldn't a miter with similar grain selection produce the same result? (except be 10 times faster)
Believe it or not, it only took about 30 minutes to setup the shaper & mill 12 ends. Had 2 pieces of cherry that needed stretched as well.

A miter will eventually open up, a glued finger joint won't. I'm gonna be in this house for the rest of my life, I don't want to be looking at an open joint & having to add it to my to do list that I will never get around to.


BTW, all screws will be removed prior to going through the moulder.
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No board stretcher at your shop? That was the first tool I bought

I hate to admit it, but I fell for that board stretcher trick when I first started in the business.
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Did you get the blue one or the orange one? I find the orange one works better on hardwoods
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wouldn't a miter with similar grain selection produce the same result? (except be 10 times faster)
It would look the same initially, his system will be MUCH less likely to open up in the future, GMOD
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There's a lumber yard around here that puts zipper joints in long runs of trim. They'll make up to 24' runs and even attempt to match the grain and color.
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Lunch time. Just got in from milling 180' of the 5" crown. 110' of cherry & 70' of cypress. Now I gotta go back & start hand sanding after lunch.

Didn't come out to shabby & I'm pleased to say, none of the pocket screw holes came through the face. I was honestly a little worried about having more holes to fill. Just wish the moulder done a better job of chip collection. Always have a big pile to sweep up when I'm done.


Hopefully next weekend I can get start trimming out the house. Momma's gonna be so happy.
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What do you have for dust collection. That machine needs about 500-800 cfm
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When I was going to tech school in Building Construction, we did all the remodeling of the buildings for the other departments. It was an old government installation and all of the buildings needed work. One day a guy cut a board too short and the instructor got really ticked. You would have thought he was personally buying the materials, anyway he tells the guy to go to the maintenance guy to get a board stretcher. Off he went and when he found the guy and told him what he needed. The guy played along and told him that he had left that tool somewhere and sent him off again to find it. Finally, when it was time for class to be over for the day, he comes back and says that he couldn't find it anywhere. The instructor threw up his hands and walked off, and one of us told him there was no such thing as a board stretcher.
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What do you have for dust collection. That machine needs about 500-800 cfm


That's not the problem. I'm running 2 hp, 1550 cfm dust collector with nothing else hooked up. It's dedicated to my moulder or planer, depending on which one is rolled into the alley. It's the big chips that tear out from the initial pass that don't get picked up well. Running this 180 of trim filled a 55 gallon barrel & the dust collector. Barrel is staged in front of the dust collector.
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The other item which is useful in the shop is a sky hook.

BTW I like your set up, did you use the pocket screws till the glued dried or did you put them in the meat and hope you did not hit them?
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Did you get the blue one or the orange one? I find the orange one works better on hardwoods
no the green one
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The other item which is useful in the shop is a sky hook.

BTW I like your set up, did you use the pocket screws till the glued dried or did you put them in the meat and hope you did not hit them?
I'm pretty sure he said he took them out.

Question and/or critique......it looks like the pocket holes are too close to the butt which leaves very little meat on the male end. Any concerns with that?

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That's not the problem. I'm running 2 hp, 1550 cfm dust collector with nothing else hooked up. It's dedicated to my moulder or planer, depending on which one is rolled into the alley. It's the big chips that tear out from the initial pass that don't get picked up well. Running this 180 of trim filled a 55 gallon barrel & the dust collector. Barrel is staged in front of the dust collector.
What size port is on the machine? If it is a 4" you are limited to about 350, 5" is about 650 and 6" is about 800 cfm. It doesn't matter what your machine is rated at. Plus 2HP is probably only going to pull about 1200 cfm anyway. You machine was probably cheater rated. Using no filters and no hoses so the raw throughput is 1550 cfm.
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I'm pretty sure he said he took them out.

Question and/or critique......it looks like the pocket holes are too close to the butt which leaves very little meat on the male end. Any concerns with that?

Nice post BTW.
Yes, I took them out before I sent them through the machine. That crown knife cost me north of $250, no way I was taking the chance.

It just looks like the pocket screws are close to the end, but what you don't see is the fingers. That's on the male side of the finger joint & there was plenty of meat for the screw head to hold. The screws sucked the joint together very nicely.
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What size port is on the machine? If it is a 4" you are limited to about 350, 5" is about 650 and 6" is about 800 cfm. It doesn't matter what your machine is rated at. Plus 2HP is probably only going to pull about 1200 cfm anyway. You machine was probably cheater rated. Using no filters and no hoses so the raw throughput is 1550 cfm.
Yeah, 4" all the way to the dust collector. The 1550 is the specs from the dust collector. You very well could be right about how many cfm's I'm getting at the machine. All I know, I've got plenty of air flow to keep up with my planer plowing 15" wide & full 1/8" cut. The woodmaster moulder just isn't designed well for chip removal out the dust port. Even when I put in the planer knives, it doesn't do much better. My 15" planer does a far better job of dust removal. Barely have to sweep up after it.
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