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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?
I agree with the before mention of packing out the wall and sheetrock it to be even. But to avoid that, what are the exact measurements of the left and right. I have a couple ideas, but I'm not sure if they will work without knowing the measurements.
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?
Jason is right, the GC should install all three skylights correctly. Nothing more important then a contractor who will stand by his work and accept responsibility for his mistakes. Why were the skylights not centered in the truss? He had better have a good reason. Will the sheetrock be disturbed by moving the skylights?
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?
As I see it you have 3 options. All of which have already been said.
1. Find your happy medium and make it look the best you can to satisfy GC 2. Jamb the opening and case it. 3. Add drywall and corner bead. Use dura-bond and repaint. If you're good and no-one is looking over your shoulder you could get lucky and pull it off in a day. You could accidentally ram a 1x5 so hard into the existing corner bead and play up the need for drywall and paint touch up.... ![]() This is what makes carpentry so fun ...you have to get creative, pull it out of nowhere, and add to the tricks up your sleeve! This is your girlfriend's dad....blow out the GC to the HO and do a good job! Hopefully he'll appreciate your attention to detail and respect your skill more than the price.....why not do it on your own time and really impress the guy
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?Quote:
The GC is a friend of the home owners. Infact, most of the trades working on this house are a friend or relative. Quote:
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I could just fill the whole thing with DAP and make some fancy grooves with my fingers and they would probably say that it looks great as long as it doesn't cost too much. Last edited by rusty1986; 09-10-2008 at 10:57 PM. |
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?
wow, that's ugly! can't think of anything that would look good with-out changing the rock. If it's for your father-in-law to be, why not just get some drywall scrap, build it up so the rock lines up with the lower part of the window like it should. It's tough to tell from the pics, but that may be the "best" way to fix it.
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?
That is terribly ugly. gc needs to have it done right, only thing worse than a builder in kaki's is a lazy one.
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Every time he shows up, he's wearing Kaki shorts, and a hawaiin t-shirt. It looks like he's always just getting back from vacation. |
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?
I would love to just smash out the corner bead and put a strip that runs straight into the channel on that bottom edge, except I would have to redo everything to match. All the walls would have to be brought into the channel, which is actually the right thing to do, but he doesn't want it done.
I think he just wants to see the $30 worth of trim he bought used for something. On the bottom, I'm going to come out of the channel 90 degrees from the skylight until I reach the wall, then go straight down to meet the wall and match to the rest of it. Then finish it off with that beautiful shoe mold ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() My favourite line was "Don't worry, it's just paint grade. Just have a tube of caulking with ya." |
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?Quote:
Someone needs to grow some balls and tell the GC to fix his problem. It would have taken no more time to set it right than it did to set it wrong. Did the GC set the sky light or was it someone else?
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The skylights were put in by the roofers. Doing it right in the first place wouldn't have cost any extra. Hiring a good GC would have. This house is going to have some serious problems in the NEAR future. Both the front and back deck were set on disturbed soil and have sunk. The solution? Keep shimming until it stops sinking. Water leaching through the walls in the basement!!!!!!! Solution? Nothing! "Once the eves trough is on, it will stop" 14 concrete stairs from the garage to the basement with a tread of 8 3/4" with no nosing or toe kick!!!! Fine if you have size 7 feet. But with size 13 boots I have to walk up these things sideways. Steel door frame to the basement set too low? Solution? Get a wooden door and cut off 4". The problems have been brought up. A 21 year old doesn't hold a lot of weight against a contractor who has been doing this for 20 years. The sad part is that the HO doesn't care as long as his house gets built, and the price tag is low. He's not living in the house, it is going to be rented out. |
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This? Wow! If he has to get an inspection for a C/O, he's screwed! Especially if it's a rental!Good luck!
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?
given the situation, this is what i would do. Just break a light 1/8" reveal on the left and a 1/4" on the right. Cheat everything in or out you can. maybe even knotch the 1x so you can hold it in a little. so its not locked in the channel and same on the otherside but out. if your painting it, it should work fine. in this case caulk and paint make the GC what he ain't. on the bottom i would cut the 1x to match the angle of the returned peice of drywall. fit it so it locks into the channel and the matching angle will allow it to follow the plane of the wall. no need for any extra work here. no shoe at the bottom just die the other shoe into the wall. at the top, do your best to match the sides and miter you shoe in the corners. if you don't follow me, i will post a pic detailing my idea. hope this helps
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?Quote:
I'm not perfectly clear on what you were saying on the bottom though. I'll try a test piece with the shoe running into the wall at the bottom and see how it looks. Thanks! |
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Is this new construction, or exsisting house renovations? |
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?
Since reworking the openings aren't an option, I'd stay with the idea that less is more. I'd run the 1x's horizontal. First I'd rip the 1x's to within a 1/4" margin on the skylight jamb, allowing enough width for scribing the 1x to the drywall. Then I'd run the long sides first, & then fit the top, & bottom between. When done, you'll have a decent size flat to help hide the runouts. Mitering the corners is possible, but the bastard corners will only draw more attention to the problem.
Just keep it plain as possible. Joe Last edited by Railman; 09-13-2008 at 12:26 AM. |
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?
New construction.
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?Quote:
Don't get me wrong, I hate doing stuff like this, all of these solutions are just putting a band aid over a band aid. Unless the skylight was removed and reinstalled correctly.
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Trade: finish carpenter
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Re: How The Hell Do I Trim This?
just trim it out with the 1x5's that you have drawn in, but instead of stepping the bottom trim back, install a bullnose on the bottom to create a negative reveal. if the bullnose on the bottom is the same all of the way around, then the only one who will ever see the difference is the bird on the roof. this is assuming that the difference in small enough to hide.
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