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Old 01-16-2010, 03:31 PM   #1
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Here Are Some Interesting Crown Moulding Intersections


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Old 01-16-2010, 03:40 PM   #2
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Looks like an afterthought or build as you go.

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I would have filled in at the bottom of crown with a block the same thickness as the head pc
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"Interesting" is one way to describe it.
I think it would have been easier and look better if the recessed areas were built out to meet the rest of the wall.
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You guys are wrong. You need to see in person then. It doesn't look right when blocking is nailed to the wall to bring the crown onto the same plane.
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It took some skill to put them in that way... but it does look a little strange.
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Perhaps when it's painted.
I have been wrong before.
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I agree that it took some skill to install it that way.

Still looks distracting to me. The second pic is symmetrical and looks better than the first.

I would have played with extending the head pieces into the corner.

The truth is that the detail looks great so long as the doors have the room from the corners for the large crown to return clean. I just don't think there is a great way to pull it off otherwise.

All that said the pictures are interesting.
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It looks like a mess, a tricky mess none the less.
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I understand the concept behind the detail, but it looks very awkward to me. It definitely looks like something was missed in the planning stage. In order for the crown to flow properly, the windows need to be pulled from the corner far enough for the molding to clear itself throughout all the transitions. Either that, or they needed to be closer to the corner, so that it could appear to be "built into" the corner, without the crowded transition. However, very nice workmanship.
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The way I have addressed that problem is to run a band the same size of the head piece all the way around the room.
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The way I have addressed that problem is to run a band the same size of the head piece all the way around the room.
More work, more money and a finished look.
A win win.
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These are "no win" situations... since the window locations and trim sizes were not planned, you end up doing the best you can.

Some of the most challenging work I've ever done was really just due to a lack of planning.

I think the best compromise is to run the crown straight into the corner, but not the head casing, instead you slip a filler block in to fill the void behind the crown in the corner.

Doors and windows in corners work best if you use casing large enough to meet in the corner. A related problem is not enough room for a full casing. Here is pic of a corner where half a casing meets on each side of the corner, so it looks like a full casing folded into the corner. The other issue in this photo is different height doors.

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someone should have caught that detail problem long enough beforehand to figure a more pleasing transition.

That could have been the most complicated piece in the house to assemble, and it's nicely done, but it looks an "Oh, Sh!t!"....

We run into that when the HOer or designer changes trim details mid-stream. Don't take offense.....

we don't always know the circumstances involved, just what we can see from the pics!
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There is no doubt that it would look cleaner if there was the proper amount of room for both sides of the returns in the corners. But I'm telling you, we tried a mock up of running the crown into the corners with "filler blocks" to bring the crown on the same plane as the heads, it just looks "unbalanced" with a proper return on one side and no return on the other side. To each his own I guess.

The funny thing about the lack of thought about window placement though is this. This is over a 4 million dollar house in Westport, CT and the builder is too cheap to get any kind of interior trim detailing from the architect. All the trim is an "after thought". It does come down to, here it is, make it work!
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There is no doubt that it would look cleaner if there was the proper amount of room for both sides of the returns in the corners. But I'm telling you, we tried a mock up of running the crown into the corners with "filler blocks" to bring the crown on the same plane as the heads, it just looks "unbalanced" with a proper return on one side and no return on the other side. To each his own I guess.

The funny thing about the lack of thought about window placement though is this. This is over a 4 million dollar house in Westport, CT and the builder is too cheap to get any kind of interior trim detailing from the architect. All the trim is an "after thought". It does come down to, here it is, make it work!
Hi Marc,

That was a difficult position to be in and you did some challenging work and did it well. There are other ways to do it too. Your mock up may have looked odd, but so do the pics you posted... no easy way out.

I've done it both ways. Here is the other approach (look at the last two photos):

http://forums.finehomebuilding.com/b...-capital-crown

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Pretty tricky!
I see you removed that vertical piece in the first picture and corrected that cluster****. Looks to be about a 1X4 undera th' paint. Good job.

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