Gus Dering

It seems to be more and more common that I need to install vanities that have no toe kick. First time I though was gonna be my last but there are several out there now and I'm not surprised nor intimidated by them anymore.

The first one kept me up at night worrying about the thing falling off the wall the first time the owners got freaky on it.

But some of my best ideas come to me in those sleepless nights and I think this one is a keeper.

The challenge was to get some fasteners working in shear rather than tension. Thats where the HD2.5's come in the picture.

This first picture shows the basic set up. We use a 1/2" hanging cleat that registers under the !'2" nailer on the outside of the cabinet. That puts the top of the cleat 4" down from the top of the cabinet. It also gives me a great place to measure for the pipes and outlets, but that is not what this is about.

The HD2.5's are screwed to the sides of the studs so they exit the wall cavity at the top of the cabinet.





Then hang the cabinet as a normal one, set it on the hanging cleat and align it to my center line that I also used for the mechanical measurements and tack it on the wall with a screw.
Shim as needed and send a few more screws in where needed as I go until it sits pretty. Screw it completely off.



Those screws in sheer will let me sleep better tonight. I'll find something else to worry about but not these three vanities I hung today.



I hope this comes in handy for someone here. I have several out there and have not had that call we all worry about. I sit on the edge of these things with no separation from the wall. The wall flexes a little bit but not much.
Enjoy

CVGFir

Nice! Never had to hang one yet but when I do, now I will know how. Thanks.

naptown CR

an ingenious use of hurricane straps as I would call them. however lets think about moment of inertia. the Hd2.5's are mounted at the top along with the hanging rail. Does the hanging rail on the cabinets interlock under the wall hanging rail? Is there another hanging rail behind the box that I can't see? How did you treat the lower hanging rail is it done the same way? What is going to be used as a top. Judging from the size of the flat rails on the top of the box this will either be a flat top with vessel sinks or a whole lot of cutting is going to go on to get an undermount or drop in bowl to work. This may be an illusion from the photographs though. Nice work as always.

woodtradesman

Good tip, thanks for sharing

By the way I haven't seen one of those wooden fastener caddy in a long time, they are pretty much extinct nowadays.

ChrWright

Next time, you might want to try a French cleat.

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strathd

Cool install. I had never heard of a floating vanity. Not sure if I like it or not. Not that that matters. Do you have a pic of the finished bathroom ?

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Gus Dering

You are welcome. I hope you get the chance.

Good eye on the caddy. My partner brought those to the show.

If you are referring to a 45 deg top on the hanging cleat and on the bottom of the nailer, I will not be trying that. When you do that you do 2 things that I can't work around. One is the fact that you can not shim the top of the cab away from the wall when needed. Two is that when the wall has a stud with a bigger crown than the others, the hanging cleat ends up crooked and the cabinet will not sit down in the 45 all the way. With square edge parts they register well and you can move the box away from the wall.

Don't matter to me either. What matters is that I sleep well and there are no problems down the road.
I installed those on Tuesday, not sure if the house is done yet. Don't think so.

loneframer

Gus, only you would think of ty-downs for this application. How'd you go from being a framer to a cabinet maker?Nice job on the boxes and the install. What's next on your agenda? Make sure you take pics.

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woodtradesman

You should make one for your self, good knows I made one

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Gus Dering

Wow thats nice.
I would make one of those if I had the plans. Did you get the drawings off the internet somewhere?

Just yankin your chain. Good to see another kindling maker here

loneframer

I'm gonna make one of those out of Azek with a wooden dowwel handle....soon as I get some free time.

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Gus Dering

You should wait for him to post the plans first. Remember what happened last time you just winged it?

woodtradesman

Holy ch!t, I made it on the fly. I am afraid the plans are in my head (some where) and my mind doesn't have a print botton

On a serious note, I also noticed your stretchers have some kind joint system. I've seen rabbeted or dadoed stretchers before but I can't quite make out what you got going there.

loneframer

Yup, this was my last attept at something without a drawing.

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Gus Dering

what the heck is that?

you making your own laundry hampers or something?

loneframer

Colloseum, but it doubles as a hamper

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ClosetPro

The Roman coliseum silly.

Gus Dering

Thats a blind dado system used with a cnc machine for frameless construction.
Check out the cnc horsepower thread. There is a good pic of how that works there.

woodtradesman

Looks like you're 3/4s of the way there.

ClosetPro

Seeeeee! I got culture!