Gus, Ever Want To Smack The Inventor Of...

basswood

...The wall oven.

Building my first wall oven cabinet and it is giving me a headache.

Just whining (to balance out the good news thread).

No big deal. Just the standard learning curve for anything new. All done venting now.

Carry on,

Bass

Gus Dering

Is it in a base cab under a cook top or in a tall cab by itself?
What is the trouble?

D.Foster

I've always had to cut the cabinet opening bigger,on stock oven cabinets. And add supports underneath to hold up the oven. That was stock though, Do you have the oven specs?

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basswood

Tall cabinet.

Really the wall oven spec table and instructions just seem poorly done. One set of instructions for multiple models and assorted applications... double wall or single wall or undercounter. Lot 'o data to sort through.

For instance, their drawing shows a face frame and gives distance from the bottom of the face frame to the bottom of the oven ro as 3-33"... so I set about using the 33" value to put the oven high enough that the lower part of the cab was fair sized and the oven at a comfortable height... then I realize that though the drawing show measurements from bottom of face frame, the specs are from the floor--forgot to subtract 3" for the toekick space.

Goofy novice basic math stuff. No big deal. Found it double checking all the numbers (rather than at the install).

It's all good... just felt like complaining for some reason,

Bass

basswood

Still have the specs, though I did think about tossing them in the woodstove.

I think I found my mistake and all is well.

thanks,

Bass

Leo G

My fovorite on those stove units is the tolerence they give you for the height. Usually 1/16" whereas the widths are usually around 1/4"-1/2"

Playing that game as I type. I have an old space where her original built in oven is and the space is 27" wide. The new oven is 30". Why can't she just find a smaller stove. Well, all I can think is more money for me.

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irockwithdirt

They rank right up there with drop in ranges! Ever install an under sink dishwasher? That's real fun LMAO

tcleve4911

Okay I'll bite...I've never seen an under sink DW

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irockwithdirt

Instead of a base cabinet, U have a dishwasher and something like a 12" base cabinet. Has a special double bowl sink with one very shallow side.

Fun really starts when U try to cram all the plumbing and a disposal in a 12" base cabinet LOL. Last one I installed was prolly 17-18 years ago but they still make them.

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Leo G

My favorite are the panels that go on DW or refrigerators. These designer must be morons. They are always some kind of blind installation that needs to be perfectly aligned and have no adjustments at all. These guys need to be slapped. I especially despise the Bosch DW with the add on panel. I did one and it took me an hour to get the stupid panel to hook on. Later that year I did another one. I had figured out the trick to get it to go on. So how long did it take me to get the second one on, you guess it -- 1 hour.

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Gus Dering

I absolutely hate wood panels on appliances. I like the look, I have one on my DW. Its just that I have bought the darn things more than once too many times. The cut sheets are difficult at best. There always seems to be one issue or another.
Installing them is the other thing. Leo is getting away good at an hour. On some flush inset jobs that can turn into several hours easily.
I push the install off to the appliance installer when ever I can.

Leo G

One of the best and actually thought out systems I did was on a Sub Zero refrigerator. It was reasonably thought out and it had a minor adjustment ability. Still takes a while. Always longer than you would think.

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Jeremy E

We've got a cheapo dw in our kitchen. It had that flimsy plastic panel (white on one side, almond on the other) held in with the metal channel around the edges. After messing with it for a bit, I discovered that the panel had a thin styrofoam backer, as well. Backer + panel = @ 1/4 inch thick. I grabbed a scrap of 1/4 inch maple ply from the barn, cut it to fit, and slipped it right in. Magic upgrade to a bottom of the line unit. I've been holding that trick in the bag, just waiting for another chance to use it.