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Old 02-06-2010, 01:20 PM   #1
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Frozen Glue

I left a bottle of Titebond 111 overnight and it froze. The top 1/2" is brown. I opened it and stirred it around. It looks okay. It's smooth - no clumps.

Does it alter it's quality when it freezes?

Is it okay to use?

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Old 02-06-2010, 01:22 PM   #2
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Re: Frozen Glue

You are now obligated to
test it for us....
in the name of science!

Report back tomorrow.
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I have warmed up a bottle or 2 in the micro over the years---only for 4 seconds, uncovered, my guess would be that it probably diminishes the strength somewhat, but not enough to fail, GMOD
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Re: Frozen Glue

From their website:

Limitations Not for continuous submersion or for use below the waterline. Not for structural or load bearing applications. Use when temperature, glue and materials are above 45°F. Store product below 75°F. Storage above this temperature may cause product to thicken and reduce the usable shelf life. If thickened, shake vigorously by firmly tapping bottle on a hard surface until product is restored to original form. Because of variances in the surfaces of treated lumber, it is a good idea to test for adhesion. Read MSDS before use. KEEP FROM FREEZING. KEEP OUT OF THE REACH OF CHILDREN.
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Old 02-06-2010, 01:28 PM   #5
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Re: Frozen Glue

Why risk it?

The test may be interesting. But is a professional job worth the risk of embarrassment over a less than $20 suspect item?
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Re: Frozen Glue

Most of the glues have 3 freeze thaw cycles. But from the looks of the spec sheet you should junk it. Why risk a project from failing when you can get another bottle for under $25.
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Why risk it?

The test may be interesting. But is a professional job worth the risk of embarrassment over a less than $20 suspect item?
Some of us are snowed in.
Why turn one's back on an opportunity
to advance science and knowledge?
Besides Cleve can use the time,
developing proper testing procedures,
that might otherwise be squandered
shoveling snow!
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Save it for your own house, only your wife will complain if a joint or 2 opens up, GMOD
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Re: Frozen Glue

...i know Elmers ProBond had a freeze thaw cycle of five times. Said so on the bottle!
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...i know Elmers ProBond had a freeze thaw cycle of five times. Said so on the bottle!

Titebond 3 has the same amount. I think 2 also has but im not sure.


Type Advanced Proprietary PolymerCalculated VOC (less water) 5.6 g/LState LiquidWeight/gallon 9.22 lbs.Color TanChalk Temperature* Approx. 47°F.Dried Film Light BrownFlashpoint >200°F.Solids 52%Freeze/thaw stability Stable (5 cycles)Viscosity 4,200 cpspH 2.5-3.0Storage life 12 months (in tightly closed containers at 75°F.)
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Personally, I wouldn't take a chance on it.

Supposedly it can withstand a freeze cycle or two, you can tell by if it mixes back to it's original form (rather than staying separated or clumpy).
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ahh try it , just use a couple extra nails
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Re: Frozen Glue

not sure, not about to find out i just bought some today.

ive had lepage's glue freeze and thaw many times with no problems. but gorilla wood glue is pretty much done first freeze, even once its completely thaws out it has the consistancy of cottage cheese
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