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Cutting Corners
I have a set of 12 elliptical corners I made for 6 arched openings in a remodel I'm working on. These are a close match to an existing opening.
Took a few process pics. I started with 5x9" blanks of 1/2" ply. Traced the pattern and rough cut the curves with the band saw:
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Re: Cutting Corners
The middle of the sandwich is an L-shaped frame of a vertical 1x block and a horizontal piece of 1/2" ply. An extra backing block was added in the middle of the curve for a total of 5 pieces.
I did the glue up with the ends of the "L" extending beyond the points of the curves and trimmed them flush on the bandsaw the next day. I do the glue up over parchment paper (bakers wax paper) to keep from gluing stuff to my bench. Will install them on Monday and get to rockin'...
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Re: Cutting Corners
I love the stuff you do Brian. Interesting and thought out.
You posting pics of the finished openings I hope? I had an old timer show me some method of making ellipses with a board and 2 nails. Interesting, but for me I use my wide format mylar plotter to make any pattern I wish.
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Re: Cutting CornersQuote:
There are plenty of other ways to do it, but this should work. The "arches" are flat-topped... so not true ellipses. I plan to use hot water on 1/4" rock to bend them. Will do the arches this week (and the bath, laundry, mudroom,etc). Later, Bass
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Re: Cutting Corners
Looks like fun Bass
Glue and staples not ample for you?
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Re: Cutting Corners
Well... I thought about that, but knew I would be running them through the band saw after the assembly and did not want to hit a fastener with the saw blade... so I just did the glue and clamps overnight.
Bass be bendin'
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Re: Cutting Corners
The pseudo-elliptical arch gig got going this week. Installed the corner frames, and got to rockin'.
I found that 1/4" rock soaked with hot water would not bend that tight, so I scored the backs to get the bend.
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Re: Cutting Corners
The elliptical curve starts as a tight turn then flattens out. I scored for the bend on a graduated interval to match the curve. I did a gentle snap on each score line with the rip perched on a stack of scrap with a work table supporting the overhanging end. I also still got the piece wet too. I used PL Premium to deal with gluing wet rock.
I started at each end of the arch with two separate pieces of rock, overlapping them on the head and cut the overlap to splice. This eliminates the guess work on how long to cut the pieces with the bend. The rock is double layered and the second layer splice is off set from the first.
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Re: Cutting Corners
Where did you get the rock ripper? I did a job like that last year, but I did it on site. Yours turned out better. Jigs saws don't cut as nice as band saws.
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Re: Cutting Corners
Nice work Bass. Thanks for the tips. I'll steal that too.
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Re: Cutting CornersQuote:
The band saw is nice for this, for sure. All the best, Bass
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Re: Cutting Corners
Nice work, Brian.
You doing the mudding, too? |
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Re: Cutting Corners
Lookin good Bass!
How long did you soak the back of the rock? I've found you have to give it a half hour dwell time to soak in..
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Re: Cutting CornersQuote:
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Re: Cutting Corners
O.K. I looked at it again, with those adds, I've seen those. I know what they are.
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Re: Cutting Corners
Lookin good bass.
Im excited for the finished product, it should come out good. |
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Re: Cutting Corners
did you just glue that rock up? i don't see any nails/screws!
nice job... i too will be, um, inspired by this technique
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Re: Cutting Corners
Next time try this: www.jnkproducts.com/instantarch.htm
Tape them with archflex (www.all-wall.com), mud, and sand and your done. |
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Re: Cutting Corners
Thanks Man, Yep I'm mudding this one... if I'm busier, I'll sub it out.
Cheers, Brian
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Re: Cutting CornersQuote:
Then I resorted to the scoring. This was such a tight radius (3") that even the flex bead did not want to bend it. Made it work though. Cheers, Bass
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