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To Countersink Or Not
I just want to see what you guys prefer,
I like to countersink my screws when attaching cabinets to a wall etc.. other then using those silly washers, grant it they look good but I feel they leave a little gap between the chamfered edge of the screw and washer. To me countersinking gives you a positive point anchor. I use this technique with high end and low end cabs, Any thoughts |
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Re: To Countersink Or Not
Low end cabinets I use the washer headed screws.
High end I'll countersink. Really high end I'll countersink and put in a matching wood plug. How's that. |
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The Duke
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Re: To Countersink Or Not
I'm following John around tonight.
![]() I try my best to hide the screws on the top flange. The bottom flange I never bother worrying about. I just put a screw in there. I pre drill before hand. I have seen the washers, but never used them.
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Thats how I do it too!!!
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Re: To Countersink Or Not
Stop stalking me.
![]() I'm talking about these screws |
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those are nice screws, i use a #10 2"1/2 drywall screw and paint them to match the cabs as close as possible. good stuff people |
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The Duke
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Re: To Countersink Or Not
I never had any luck with cabinet screws for some reason. They didn't seem like they pulled the cabinet to the wall well enough. I use 3" GRK's. Those will pull the cabinet right through the wall
![]() Where ya off to next John?
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Re: To Countersink Or Not
I like to use 3" grk also. And i use the Fastcap peel and stick covers stained to match interior.
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Re: To Countersink Or Not
My interiors are either maple or birch. I use the yellow (tan) deck screws and they are a pretty good color match. The only time I worry about it is when I have clear glass in the doors. And I countersink them so the heads end up flush.
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Re: To Countersink Or Not
i mean am i living a pipe dream? or is countersinking a good trade practice?! im so confused
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Re: To Countersink Or Not
same here
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Re: To Countersink Or Not
You can get round wood stickers, to match the interior, I use them with some builders as well. Also mel cabs white screws.
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Re: To Countersink Or Not
They don't slip much. Counter-sink?
Sometimes.
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Re: To Countersink Or Not
Those are GRK's....if I'm not mistaken. I use just the regular ol' 3" though.
An impact? Of course. I have 3 of them. Maybe I should revisit the cabinet screw again. Who knows.
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Re: To Countersink Or Not
Fastcap or GRK. The flange is where the holding power comes from. Not to start a pissing contest, but a bugle head screw should not be used. You dont work for me so I can't fire you...you get the point. Shear strength really means alot when loading up a cabinet with fine heavy china. (I dont want to hear how you all have been using for 20 + years..)
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