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Old 02-14-2011, 06:44 PM   #1
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I just want to see what you guys prefer,
I like to countersink my screws when attaching cabinets to a wall etc.. other then using those silly washers, grant it they look good but I feel they leave a little gap between the chamfered edge of the screw and washer.
To me countersinking gives you a positive point anchor.
I use this technique with high end and low end cabs, Any thoughts
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Old 02-14-2011, 06:49 PM   #2
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Low end cabinets I use the washer headed screws.

High end I'll countersink.

Really high end I'll countersink and put in a matching wood plug.

How's that.

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I'm following John around tonight.

I try my best to hide the screws on the top flange. The bottom flange I never bother worrying about. I just put a screw in there. I pre drill before hand. I have seen the washers, but never used them.
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I'm following John around tonight.

I try my best to hide the screws on the top flange. The bottom flange I never bother worrying about. I just put a screw in there. I pre drill before hand. I have seen the washers, but never used them.


Thats how I do it too!!!
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Stop stalking me.

I'm talking about these screws
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Low end cabinets I use the washer headed screws.

High end I'll countersink.

Really high end I'll countersink and put in a matching wood plug.

How's that.
wow your my hero!
those are nice screws, i use a #10 2"1/2 drywall screw and paint them to match the cabs as close as possible.
good stuff people
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those are nice screws, i use a #10 2"1/2 drywall screw and paint them to match the cabs as close as possible.
good stuff people
You paint the screws to match?
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You paint the screws to match?
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Stop stalking me.

I'm talking about these screws
I never had any luck with cabinet screws for some reason. They didn't seem like they pulled the cabinet to the wall well enough. I use 3" GRK's. Those will pull the cabinet right through the wall

Where ya off to next John?
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I like to use 3" grk also. And i use the Fastcap peel and stick covers stained to match interior.
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I never had any luck with cabinet screws for some reason. They didn't seem like they pulled the cabinet to the wall well enough. I use 3" GRK's. Those will pull the cabinet right through the wall

Where ya off to next John?
I'm off to look at some silly video.
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I never had any luck with cabinet screws for some reason. They didn't seem like they pulled the cabinet to the wall well enough. I use 3" GRK's. Those will pull the cabinet right through the wall

Where ya off to next John?
never heard of um" have you tried some elbow grease? how bout an impact driver, indispensable in cabinet installation but im sure you have
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My interiors are either maple or birch. I use the yellow (tan) deck screws and they are a pretty good color match. The only time I worry about it is when I have clear glass in the doors. And I countersink them so the heads end up flush.
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i mean am i living a pipe dream? or is countersinking a good trade practice?! im so confused
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Low end cabinets I use the washer headed screws.

High end I'll countersink.

Really high end I'll countersink and put in a matching wood plug.

How's that.
same here
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You can get round wood stickers, to match the interior, I use them with some builders as well. Also mel cabs white screws.
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They don't slip much. Counter-sink?
Sometimes.
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Sometimes.
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Those are GRK's....if I'm not mistaken. I use just the regular ol' 3" though.

An impact? Of course. I have 3 of them. Maybe I should revisit the cabinet screw again. Who knows.
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Fastcap or GRK. The flange is where the holding power comes from. Not to start a pissing contest, but a bugle head screw should not be used. You dont work for me so I can't fire you...you get the point. Shear strength really means alot when loading up a cabinet with fine heavy china. (I dont want to hear how you all have been using for 20 + years..)

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