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Old 02-11-2009, 02:18 PM   #1
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This is how we do things. I would love to hear how you guys do things as we are always looking for a better way.

This install took 3 guys 2 days including loading the entire job and install tools for delivery. We started installing about 10 AM

We build our boxes with a 1/2" nailer outside the back. That hangs on the 1/2" cleat on the wall. Starting with the uppers. Dead corner cabinets get screwed together on the floor first and lifted as a unit
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This job has the micro then pantry and refer tying onto that corner. Notice the refer and pantry share a common style. As does any boxes that need to tie together on the same plane.
Then hang the bases on a hanging cleat as we do the uppers. Shim as needed and screw them off.


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This place gets 3/4" hardwood floors so we cut 1/2" toe skins labeled them and left them for the contractor to install after the floor.
The crown on this job goes throughout the house so the contractor has that too.

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The walnut top on the island was cut on the cnc also. The cutout is for a stone inlay. The picture has the template for the stone guy laying in place on top of a sub top that is dadoed into the bottom of the walnut.
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The fixed shelves are supported by square tubing that was installed prior to drywall. I'ts made from C2 maple ply that was miter folded on our cnc.

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Pretty simple, low tech way of doing the install. The whole system is the square edge hanging cleat. I know some use a Johnson cleat with a 45 bevel. My problem with that is the walls are not straight and the cabinet won't sit down in the 45. And shimming the top of the cabinet forward is impossible.
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:25 PM   #2
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Sorry I got the pictures all messed up, but you'll get the idea

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do you miter the bottom of the cab cleat and the top of the wall cleat?
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Fine looking work there Gus!
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do you miter the bottom of the cab cleat and the top of the wall cleat?
No I don't. See my reasons at the bottom of my first post
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Nice work Gus and you have some interesting install methods. never thought about a square cleat.

What do you mean by "square tubing" for supporting the floating shelves?
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Beautiful!
So are your end panels made as scribes too? If so thats pretty cool
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Nice work Gus and you have some interesting install methods. never thought about a square cleat.

What do you mean by "square tubing" for supporting the floating shelves?
The contractor had some square tubing welded in an L shape and bolted them to the studs. So there was a foot or so of steel sticking out of the wall.
Our shelves are hollow. We screwed some 1" thick stock between the tubing. Put a thick bead of glue on the top of that and stuck the shelves over it. After the pain staking process of scribing it to the wall.
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So are your end panels made as scribes too? If so thats pretty cool
I have 2 construction techniques;
One without scribe. Like this job and we use scribe moulding where needed.

One with 3/8" scribe built into the cabinet. Then all boxes are leveled and scribed, removed, paired down to the line and installed.

The latter is about 25% slower and priced accordingly.
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I always lay my floor throughout the kitchen before I install my cabinets. Other than that it is a beautiful job.
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No I don't. See my reasons at the bottom of my first post
missed that on the first read through, must of been blinded by the pretty pictures..
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Hey Gus , Nice step by step and beautiful cabinets I may add!
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Very nice work Gus The onlything I noticed is those two guys in the second picture look like they are gonna stab someone


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Very nice work Gus The onlything I noticed is those two guys in the second picture look like they are gonna stab someone
No kidding like they ate something bad for lunch and had a sour belly or something

Great pics of your install and very nice work Gus. I also like the cleats. Could you run them at the top of the boxes and use them to hold the cabinets while screwing them off instead of he extra body or deadman?
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[quote=dkillianjr;606229]Very nice work Gus The only thing I noticed is those two guys in the second picture look like they are gonna stab someone

I should take the blame for alerting them to the photo. I guess it caught them in a bad light. They are great guys. They smile from time to time when they think no one is looking.

That guy bending over with the tape laying out the island location is 1/2 of the contracting team. He is trying to figure out how he is going to sel the owner on the pendant light location he did.
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No kidding like they ate something bad for lunch and had a sour belly or something

Great pics of your install and very nice work Gus. I also like the cleats. Could you run them at the top of the boxes and use them to hold the cabinets while screwing them off instead of he extra body or deadman?
There is one on the cabinets. Thats the beauty of the whole system.

Come on now. Keep up or I'll have to keep you after class. You should sit up front from now on.
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......That guy bending over with the tape laying out the island location is 1/2 of the contracting team. He is trying to figure out how he is going to sel the owner on the pendant light location he did.
Been trying to figure out
WTF he is doing.

Your system doesn't require
that much scrutiny.

I like hanging rails, and
looks like you have cleaned up
most of the bugs, as long as you
make the boxes.
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Looks like some nice boxes and techniques. Does using the cleats add much more cost to a job for you?

What is going on with the plumbing? It looks like you had to cut out for the vent.

Also, what kind of finish will be on the walnut tops?

Do you allow enough room on your base cabinets when hanging the cleat to accomodate for highspots in the floor?

When the general does the toe kick, do they do a good job for you?
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Looks like some nice boxes and techniques. Does using the cleats add much more cost to a job for you?
No. Thats how we build them. Cheaper in the long run

What is going on with the plumbing? It looks like you had to cut out for the vent.
Yeah that seems to be more and more popular. 2X4 walls and the inspector no likey drilling out the king and trimmer
Also, what kind of finish will be on the walnut tops?

Do you allow enough room on your base cabinets when hanging the cleat to accomodate for highspots in the floor?
This floor was really jacked. I had to start the layout for the bases at the dishwasher so it worked out then go from there.
The ceiling was level. Had to make the built in refer work so started the upper layout there.
There is a 1/2" or so difference in height between the pantry and the filler for the wine cooler.
Generally I like to start at the high spot and go level from there. The exception being when we have some kind of feet reaching the floor, then I start at the low spot so all the feet reach the floor when they get scribed.

When the general does the toe kick, do they do a good job for you?
They better.

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