Cabinet Hanging Opinion

jmckay

Question for you all regarding hanging a cabinet. I recently built a 40" tall x 60" wide by 24" deep wall cabinet to hang over a client's front loading washer and dryer. It's very heavy (constructed of 3/4" birch plywood and poplar face frames with 3/4" plywood shelving). I getting ready to mount this and will have the studs behind the cabinet, studs on one wall to the side of the cabinet, and one ceiling joist out from the wall approximately 10 inches. My question for you all: Are these installation points enough to make this big cabinet not sag? I'm just a little worred about it being out from the wall 24" and my last ceiling joist I can hit is at the 10" mark (especially on the side where I can't tie into the wall framing). Any comments? Thanks!

Trim40

Are you sure there is only one joist in that space? I had to ask. Since you are asking here, I will assume there is no access above the cabinet. I think you are at looking cutting a hole in the ceiling and adding some reinforcement.
You already knew that, you just wanted someone else to tell it to you.

Tom R

If I'm reading this right, - - just cut a section of ceiling out from about the 11" point to about the 23" point and install a few cleats perpendicular to your joists.

Then cover it with your well-attached cab.


(Oop, I see Trim40 just said as much).

genecarp

If the cab is well built, you have all the support you need, GMOD

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Use some grk screws. It will be fine.

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world llc

the sides of the cab will hold everything.... like a bracket, with the back edge against the wall, how could it do anything other than pull away from the wall?

like genecarp said... if they are built well, you have nothing to worry about...

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stp57

At a couple of houses across the street from me, I have been checking out the custom cabinets being built there. Very impressive oak (solid & ply), but not a drop of glue on anything (lots of pocket screws though). I guess they don't want the obvious problems with trying to stain over excess glue?
I can easily see these cabinets sagging down the road after the owners load them down.
Steve

Gus Dering

Frameless?

Partition in the center?

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stp57

No, framed.
Steve

Tom R

The safe thing to do is add ceiling attachment. There was a lady in my area who was paralyzed years ago from falling (overloaded) cabinets.

Now granted, - - the root cause was determined to be both a combination of the over-loading and the use of carbide screws that sheared, - - but with a cabinet of that size, - - why take any chances??

Especially with todays void-prone and green-glue delaminating plywood.

JustaFramer

Have you thought about french cleats?

dnconstruction

I thought about french maids

Trim40

Just don't dress like one on the job.
I know how you Jersey shore guys are, I used to be one.

world llc

you used to dress up as a french maid?

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Trim40

Back when I ran a crew, I showed up wearing a coconut bra and a grass skirt.

Leo G

It doesn't really matter how many screws you put through the cabinet into the studs. If the cabinet isn't built up to par then it will sag.

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mattsk8

That's why I dado everything. If you do that it cant sag. I should have charged more for the island I'm making right now because I'm pretty sure it could double as a bomb shelter! It's a 48" island that will have a granite counter top w/ a 12" over hang half way around it. That will be a heavy counter top!!

world llc

loose intepretation of hawaian shirt day?

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Trim40

John Dibella would have been proud.