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Old 03-16-2010, 10:49 PM   #1
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I have an entertainment center to build. Another crazy design. It is using an accuride pc of hardware for audio/video equipment. You make a box 20.75" wide x 18 deep by up to 60" tall. Mine will be 27 1/2" tall. This hardware will allow the box to be pulled out and then it can be rotated 90 degrees to the right or left so you can get at the back of the cabinet to access the wires. It is a $500 pc of hardware.

It is a partial built in. It is about 55" wide and 25" deep. About 14" will be sticking out from the wall the rest is behind the wall. I am not doing the install and have only seen pictures of the area.

The front has two doors. Well sort of. The doors are to look like two banks of drawers in an inset face frame style. The openings will have a 1/4" bead surrounding them with slab drawers.

The cabinet is straight (flat) on the front and a "T" shape on the rear. The middle is deeper than the sides.

The two sides have a single panel each. The top will be as deep as the unit sticks out plus the thickness of the wall (2x4) that will be notched in. The TV will sit on top.

The GC designing this came by with the dimensions and we sat down at the CAD and determined all the dimensions. Then I made an eCab rendering of it, dimensioned it and sent it off to him. I get an email back saying don't build it the dimensions are wrong. At least I hadn't started. He won't tell me what is wrong and needs to come by to work it out.

He tells me the two side cabinets are too shallow. Now remember, we spent about an hour on my CAD figuring this thing out, I just drew what we put in the CAD.

So now we get it all figured out. So that added to the PITA factor about the cabinet.

So today I started on the cabinet and got it test assembled. I had to cut down some of the decks in width to shorten the cabinet up. Dimensional errors because the plywood is 11/16" +1/64". I thought I had it figured out but the cabinet ended up 3/32" to long, better than two short I guess. I put the hardware in just to get the holes in the plywood, took it out again.

Here is the rendering:








Accuride M.A.C. is the hardware being used.

http://www.accuride.com/Resources/PD...0___100_ss.pdf

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=11184


I'm getting there. Got the box put together, the door parts are made. I tried the stain that was given to me and it worked nice. No blotching, smooth color. The inside has one coat of clear on it and I stained the front parts of the cabinet. I think I will stain the front of everything in the inside of the cabinet so you will see stained parts but keep the inside of the cabinet bright and visible. I took two pics.








Starting up with the finishing process of various items. I stained the side panels on the cabinet. It came out a bit blotchy, but not to bad, when the clear went on it cleared up a bit. The stain has a lot of red dye in it and it seems to be the predominant color in the stain. When you put the clear on, the brownish color of the stain becomes more red as the clear penetrates below the surface and enhances the dye.

I sanded the faceframe doors, put lots of masking tape on the various parts so I can seal most of the parts up while keeping areas raw for gluing things together.

I made a bunch of shelves. I am making them with the front edge stained and the rest of it clear. There is a trick to doing it and getting a nice crisp clean line between the stain and the clear coat.

For the trick; I mask off the front edge with blue tape. The I seal both surfaces, in the case of a shelf I will seal the other three edges too. Then I let it dry. After it is dry I remove the tape off the front edge and put tape on the surfaces right next to the raw wood edge, both sides. Then I apply the stain and wipe it down. Let it setup for a minute or so and remove the tape. If there is any bleed through take some sandpaper and sand the affected area and it will come off the clear coat easily. Then clear the front edge and finish as you would usually do. Gives a nice clean line.

Look !! It's a door.




In my drying room, some stained and 1 coat of clear:


Side panel on cabinet:

The plywood section will be inside the wall, it only gets seen before the install is complete.


More progress on the cabinet. I think tomorrow will be the day it is done.
And if not it will only be the countertop, I need to get more wood, two
boards short. But I forgot to account for the wood for the top. I was
thinking I would use a pc of plywood. But after staining plywood with the
stain given to me it came out very dark and since I didn't develop the
staining system for this it there basically no way to control the way the color
soaks in.

If it were my part do develop the stain system I would have used a conditioner,
a stain and a toner to even things out. But all I have is a stain so the color
is what it is and how the wood absorbs it.

Here are a few more pics:

Here is the door frame stained and cleared:

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The back of the door, this face goes towards the front of the door, the
other face is a solid stain color:


This is the read of the door/faceframe. Things were taped off so I could
glue things together:


Here is the door with the back installed, the stained areas will show through
the margins (gaps) around the faux drawer front, the unstained raw wood
area will be a gluing surface:


Here is the cabinet while I was fitting the doors. I chose to set them while the door was still only a faceframe. That way I could reach through the holes to drill the holes holding the Euro hinge plates. Made it real easy to mount them. Plus they were lighter and had nice hand holds.

Here is the cabinet with the door frames mounted:


Here is the assembled door:
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Meh, I have seen one just like it. Even the applied bead.

Thanks for the ideas, I am about to give up my Bell'O
metal and glass tv stand. No worries though, I have 3
cinder blocks and some plywood. That should get me by
for a few years!!
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This is a custom unit, where on earth did you see one similar?



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In some pictures on this here Internet thingy.
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Very nice leo I love the color!



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You mean the Interweb?
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You mean the Interweb?
Is that the the thing Al Gore made?
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He didn't make it. He just invented it
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Leo take a gander at Middle Atlantic products. They deal direct.




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Wow, that's a beautiful project! Nice job, man -

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Outstanding work Leo! I like the stain. Did I miss it or did you mention what wood you were using, cherry? Any sanding sealer on the wood?

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The wood is birch. I would have liked to design my own staining system for this but the stain was a custom match to their cabinets. It went on at the right color and I could not condition the wood. Some of the pcs have varying shades of lightness and I wished that I could use a toner, but none was provided and the job did not pay to have me have one made. So I am at the mercy of the wood what happens with the color. For birch, the stain came out pretty smooth, very little blotching, the end panels had the most.
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Lets see that hardwareGMOD
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It is in the link under the third rendering at the top of the post Gene.
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What a nice piece Leo, nice to be able to use that hardware. I have a piece coming up with the automatic TV lift, G
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Awesome looking cabinet Leo. Thanks for the breakdown, that was interesting.
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Nice work. What i find funny is these companys who make these av racks and units never show the system with all the wires connected. I wish mine looked like that behind but it would never happen. Def looks easier than pulling the dam amp out to ever connect anything.
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Those tv lifts still going for $700+ these days? Or did you find a more economical version?
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