Profit From Clients That Say "No" To Your Services...

We are cautious around your type.

Most are

From the about us page... So then, not a contractor?
Well, it is good advice to charge for design work.

Correct, definitely not a contractor... And yes, design work has been one of the easiest things to sell... It also helps us weed out clients that we'd rather not work with... If they're one of the few that complain about the $300 fee, then they're probably going to complain about a lot of other things concerning price as well...

So the owners sign a contract with the GC's and not with you and the GC has you listed as their salesman with the CSLB so you can legally talk to these people, correct?
Any other form of a business model would be illegal in Cali.

The company has a B (general contractor) license. It is perfectly legal to sign the job then sub it to another GC. If they were soliciting the jobs and the contracts were being signed by the GCs who actually do the work, then these folks would need to be registered salespeople.

Perhaps MrHamel means that he, personally, is not a licensed contractor, though he works for his father, who is a licensed contractor. Or something like that.

I am skeptical about those renderings being the result of 20 or 30 minutes of work, unless it means that's how long the rendering processing took.

If the point of the original post is that a commitment to some fairly low cost design work is a very big step toward closing the full sale, yes, I think many of us agree. It's an outstanding qualifying step, and yes, it creates a relationship.

He still has to be registered as a salesman even though his dad is the GC license holder. iirc.

Edit: I see you said that.

20/20 if set up for specific cabinet line/s is drag n drop, press a button render. Those are not, repeat not, time consuming or processor intensive renders he's showing. SO ya, 20 minutes and a $300 dollar ask. Home depot can do the same, they just don't teach any of their associates how to OR so I've heard

Realtime landscape architect. It's mainly designed for landscaping as the name implies, but you can draw a house and deck in about 15 minutes. There was a thread on it a few years ago.

No real software skills needed.

Edit: a quick search turned up a half dozen threads. On my phone or I'd link.

I'll add my quick thoughts based on the subject matter ..."Profit From Clients That Say "No" To Your Services... "

If they said No, then quickly consider
1) Why did they call you in the first place?
2) How much effort did you put into the sales effort?
3) See what you can learn from the prospect to see how you can do a better job eliminating tire-kickers from contacting you, or possibly learn what competitors are doing better than you.

Then you will profit down the road before the next prospect shows up.

Good luck all.
Brian

I don't see the B license.

But I do believe those can be done in 20-30 minutes. As said, set up for specific cabinet lines.....drag n drop n done.

Down at the bottom of their web site. Not under the same name.

Those are some really nice designs man! You're very talented if you can knock those out that quickly. You should sell your services online and have people send you in photos of their kitchen that you render off of.

Went to their website... I see no license at all...

Not listed on the CSLB under 'Kitchens by Design' out of Rancho Cucamonga..

I'm curious about the ikea thing!

Kitchens by Design out of Pleasant Hill.

In another thread he explains that they sign the job then sell it to another contractor.

That's exactly what the depot does. They aren't the contractor.