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Old 07-25-2017, 11:23 AM   #21
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thank you, Brian .I have your email, I just didn't have time to give you a call. I will free up some time next week and I will call you to talk more. I agree on all the aspects. I did site myself and lacking time obviously.....
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Hi there,
I see you back here on the forums so I figured I would remind you about you were going to call me. But to compare, I wonder how you feel when your prospects say "I got your estimate and will get back to you soon" and never do. Got to add humor into this. But like they say "Do onto others as you wish be done to you". Remember, getting leads is one thing, but then what you do with them is another.
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Old 07-25-2017, 08:24 PM   #22
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IMO the correct way to outsource SEO is to let someone who knows what good seo is, outsource it if he needs to. You cant know what good seo is if you dont know what it is.

Why do people treat marketing their business so poorly. Its only the most important expense you could possibly have.

But the most money doesnt always deliver the best results either.
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Unless you're skilled at photo editing and know your theme specs for standardizing the images, I suggest at least outsourcing an image optimization. It probably won't show for you since your browser will "cache" the pages, but you have a serious lag in page load time. Some of the photos I checked were over a MB in file size. Generally speaking, they should range from 10k or less up to maybe 50k for "normal" size images and 100 to 200k is allowable for "large" images used sparingly.

As for the rest of the recent discussion here, price is very relative. SEO is only one piece of a much larger puzzle. The value of each piece of the puzzle is mostly determined one of two ways: the right way and the wrong way—the success minded way and the failure minded way.

Saying it this way may get some interesting responses here since skill for being a contractor and skill for running a business do not automatically coexist. You either have to hire a skilled pro for your weak areas or develop the skill but you must have the pieces assembled or face a perpetual cycle of spinning your wheels.

The correct way to determine the value of each method you use to attract business is not price. It is in a way but I can safely say most contractors get this one wrong. If you choose the DIY approach, what is your time worth? How much opportunity cost are you losing?

Let's just use a nice round number like $100/hr for illustration and use BestPest's $5k for the other part. That's 50 hours and I can pretty much guarantee you'll spend a lot more than 50 hours which means lost opportunity can sink you really fast.

That still leaves the fact that there are no guarantees but an experienced pro is a much greater chance of success than starting at zero and fumbling your way through it. Successful businesses consider the cost of failure and that puts a completely different perspective on costs. And the reason I make my points about cheap is someone who has the skill to provide a stellar presentation isn't going to be willing to provide something for nothing. Either that or they too will fail.
This is a great point, this is actually something I just started doing and guilty of not doing before. Once I can find office stuff I can ask them to rewrite some of the content which is needed.
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SEO for contractors is very unique. It is not like seo for retailers or for products. I am a roofer and I live outside my service territory. I cover maybe 8 cities with my service and I need to be highly ranked in each city even though I am not physically there. Most SEO companies have no idea how to do that. That is why I use a person who specializes in contractors and understands the business.

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SEO for contractors is very unique. It is not like seo for retailers or for products. I am a roofer and I live outside my service territory. I cover maybe 8 cities with my service and I need to be highly ranked in each city even though I am not physically there. Most SEO companies have no idea how to do that. That is why I use a person who specializes in contractors and understands the business.

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Nice site, did you split test a single column site vs. a 2 column site?
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I see you back here on the forums so I figured I would remind you about you were going to call me. But to compare, I wonder how you feel when your prospects say "I got your estimate and will get back to you soon" and never do. Got to add humor into this. But like they say "Do onto others as you wish be done to you". Remember, getting leads is one thing, but then what you do with them is another.
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Hi Brian, guilty as charged, but have not forgotten. Tough times as I am trying to find support people for show room and it's not going as smooth as I hoped. This would be whole another topic of finding people to work the show room.
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Refer to this thread, tons of great information.

http://www.contractortalk.com/f12/ho...google-273649/

Feel free to ask specific questions in this thread or by PM. Would be more than willing to help you out or at least point you in the right direction.

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I've worked with 5 different SEO people so far and honestly the best results have been from a freelancer I found on Upwork located in India. I'm sure I'm going to catch some grief for saying it but it's true.
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I've worked with 5 different SEO people so far and honestly the best results have been from a freelancer I found on Upwork located in India. I'm sure I'm going to catch some grief for saying it but it's true.
What ever works for you and or your business, use it. I personally haven't had any luck with freelance sites like upwork.
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I thought I would post an update. I leveled my traffic to where I was before and then boom I Dropped it down again. This time intentionally. I finally installed SSL certificate and changed bunch of perma links. I have also redirect set for all pictures as I didn't have in me to change them all which I should. I went from 112 per day to 12. Oh well. I am hooking up e-commerce and I could not do without it. I went with Namecheap and was nervous, so far so good. All installed and running. I am in exploring phase of Woo-Commerce and I don't have anything bad to say except buttons are too big. I am in need of child theme too. This would be the next step as I keep loosing custom code. I am extremely happy with WP, it has great tools and adds on that will allow for SEO optimization for free in many cases. The only complaint is you have to dig through many different things to see what is right and then un-istall the bunch of things. I still need to go through library and reduce many pictures in size. I also rename them in bulk now before I upload which helps with ranking. Site by no means is done, I had to flip theme as other one didn't play with e-commerce. I promise I didn't ignore all the advises and took them in seriously, I am just very difficult on outsourcing as I am a programmer and like to have a full control. I do have adwords running which could use optimization but at this point it's moving in the right direction. I did some great reading on SEO and learned to be weary of any Google upgrades half of which seem to go unannounced. I will post more once my ranking is back again. I unhooked 100 sites postings from yahoo (it's still running for few month) as I honestly didn't get any traffic from any of the sites except 1 referral from yahoo. I can see on my dashboards all the referrals and none were either of the sites that yahoo supposedly posted my add too. I would be open to rethinking it , but so far no proof. I also have to crawl my web site with new addresses and such, may be will speed up bouncing back. I also found myself back on google local in QTY 2, so it's either 2 or nothing for us.
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Hello Friends. I am general contractor and I also maintain my own web site. I don't have enough time on my hands to do that at extend I need to. But here is a question for the public. I had a dude in our show room showing interest to purchase materials, wasted tons of my time, by the end of the conversation tells me works for HIBU an wants to do my marketing (people be aware of them). I almost fell. Had a pleasure working with them many years back. Reading back their reviews I can see that they didn't improve. So gave the guy card and send him telling to come back when he needs the floors. Guy just shows up few months later, I had to tell him plainly into his face leave and don't come back as he was at the point of harassing. Right next day all my traffic fell from about 110 visitors a day to almost nothing. I had not changed any content drastically, I slow add posts, so I don't expect anything impact my SEO, may be that was just a co-incident. I need help with maintenance of my site for SEO traffic and get me back on google my business. We were on there just fine. Last fall changed address, added few categories and now can't find myself on there. Can find on the maps when look by the company name. Can't blame anyone but me on that, I guess, but still can't figure out how to get myself back.
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I also need help with adding e-commerce to the site, if possible. Just to get us starting
thank you in advance
Hi Veronika,

Have you lost any search rankings in Google coinciding with the drop in site traffic?

I've checked SEMrush rankings for your site in Google, but it does not look like you lost any organic search rankings recently. It also does not look like your site ranks on page one in Google for any major search terms.

Note: it may take some time for a drop in visibility to be reflected in SEMRush, especially for low-volume keywords.

Do you know where the traffic was coming from prior to the drop?

Before you can identify the cause, you should know the prior sources of traffic to the site.

Use Google analytics (if you have it setup) to see where the traffic was coming from.

Also, if you have Google webmaster tools/search console, then check your messages and see if there is any loss in traffic from Google.

Lastly, I did a quick search in Google and found your Google local listing just fine: MMP Building Remodeling. There are four Google reviews.

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If I were you I'd run paid traffic through an automated lead funnel and forget about everything else. You can have a lead capture funnel set up online that's completely automated so you don't have to touch it and your not going to be paying some marketer monthly. Not to mention is algorithms and stuff change it doesn't effect you at all.
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If I were you I'd run paid traffic through an automated lead funnel and forget about everything else. You can have a lead capture funnel set up online that's completely automated so you don't have to touch it and your not going to be paying some marketer monthly. Not to mention is algorithms and stuff change it doesn't effect you at all.
Do you have recommendations for anything in addition to adwords ?
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Hi Veronika,

Have you lost any search rankings in Google coinciding with the drop in site traffic?

I've checked SEMrush rankings for your site in Google, but it does not look like you lost any organic search rankings recently. It also does not look like your site ranks on page one in Google for any major search terms.

Note: it may take some time for a drop in visibility to be reflected in SEMRush, especially for low-volume keywords.

Do you know where the traffic was coming from prior to the drop?

Before you can identify the cause, you should know the prior sources of traffic to the site.

Use Google analytics (if you have it setup) to see where the traffic was coming from.

Also, if you have Google webmaster tools/search console, then check your messages and see if there is any loss in traffic from Google.

Lastly, I did a quick search in Google and found your Google local listing just fine: MMP Building Remodeling. There are four Google reviews.
I do use Analytics, web master, mostly lost traffic due to changes to the address as I went from http to HTTPS, I requested recrawl and should stabilize. I don't have current issues with google my business, I did before. Now I see it posted twice vs once. I do know why it happened, two is better than none
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Do you have recommendations for anything in addition to adwords ?
Yes Facebook ads. Also read my other thread titled " Fool proof way to get more jobs around your current job" If you want to know how facebook ads works read my thread titled " How to book 15+ remodel appointment a week" or whatever its called. I wrote a very detailed description.

Don't mind all the trolls. Most of the people here have no intention of growing there business an bash people for giving advice.
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Nothing is better than good old SEO to generate leads in my opinion. It is the hardest thing to do successfully and most SEO experts have no clue on what they're doing. It's like they're practicing SEO, they get paid whether they do they're job or not. I've been through a few and it's been a journey. Many of the things I've done lately for SEO I've done on my own and help with freelancers from Upwork. I'm in the process of a pretty big revamp right now. I will say that my website isn't the best ranking website in my area for the services I provide but has brought me some pretty good business. I suggest you find a good SEO provider that will work with you. Someone that can provide you a bunch of references. Don't be afraid to do your own research and do some tweaking yourself. Good luck. You'll need it.
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Nothing is better than good old SEO to generate leads in my opinion. It is the hardest thing to do successfully and most SEO experts have no clue on what they're doing. It's like they're practicing SEO, they get paid whether they do they're job or not. I've been through a few and it's been a journey. Many of the things I've done lately for SEO I've done on my own and help with freelancers from Upwork. I'm in the process of a pretty big revamp right now. I will say that my website isn't the best ranking website in my area for the services I provide but has brought me some pretty good business. I suggest you find a good SEO provider that will work with you. Someone that can provide you a bunch of references. Don't be afraid to do your own research and do some tweaking yourself. Good luck. You'll need it.
I wish i could post the pictures. I loaded bunch of CEO plugins that help with posts and pictures to help with SEO ranking and key words. Thank you for wishing me good luck, yep ,need it big time. I do have trust issues. I will believe when I see it. Example: I have a great attorney that helps us with our real estate. He is great guy and I would not want to cross the paths with him on the other side. I sent him new lease to review and could not get a hold of him for few days, started panicking as we are on the deadline. Asked my realtor for another attorney just in case. The other office said they would take few hours to review the lease and would bill me at 250-600 per hour. So my guy finally called me and gave overview of the lease in 2 minutes, advised on few changes but said lease as standard as they come and said these are usually what they are and said where to try to negotiate explained worse case scenario. See the difference ? Didn't cost me a cent as it's not worth his time, he saw them thousands times before and said it's what he would expect to see. To your exact point for getting billed by the company regardless of the results ......
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Yes Facebook ads. Also read my other thread titled " Fool proof way to get more jobs around your current job" If you want to know how facebook ads works read my thread titled " How to book 15+ remodel appointment a week" or whatever its called. I wrote a very detailed description.

Don't mind all the trolls. Most of the people here have no intention of growing there business an bash people for giving advice.
I really appreciate it. I will definitely read these posts
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I wouldn't go too overboard with the plugins as they may cause more harm than good. I just recently started playing with the Yoast and am going to start using it on my site soon. Seems that it's pretty user friendly and that it has a large following with SEO professionals.

This forum is a great place for fellow, non competing contractors to help each other. It's great that we can all help each other out in our daily struggles as business owners. From my experience, I'd listen to fellow contractors advice before anyone else. In the past, I've use two service providers from this contractortalk for SEO service. Neither of them did anything for my google organic ratings. They both did get paid though.
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I wouldn't go too overboard with the plugins as they may cause more harm than good. I just recently started playing with the Yoast and am going to start using it on my site soon. Seems that it's pretty user friendly and that it has a large following with SEO professionals.

This forum is a great place for fellow, non competing contractors to help each other. It's great that we can all help each other out in our daily struggles as business owners. From my experience, I'd listen to fellow contractors advice before anyone else. In the past, I've use two service providers from this contractortalk for SEO service. Neither of them did anything for my google organic ratings. They both did get paid though.
yes. take it from me. they are a headache. I have it so I am notified every time a plugin updates. I check my site right away after that. One out of ten times my site is crashed. Have to use a rollback plugin to fix it.

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