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Old 01-07-2008, 10:26 PM   #1
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Marketing And Advertising Budget....


Just curious if any of you want to share how much your advertising/marketing budget is for 2008? If you don't want to share dollar amounts, how about percentage of your overall budget?

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Old 01-07-2008, 10:33 PM   #2
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It varies from 3-10% of my gross. Probably be on the higher side this year to make up for the market down turn and new programs I will have to implement
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It wound up being around 8% of the gross for me .I hope to do a lot better than that this year.It will be better!
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Old 01-07-2008, 11:19 PM   #4
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8% of gross
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Old 01-07-2008, 11:27 PM   #5
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2007 was 2% of gross.

I plan on doubling it for 2008 to feed the ever hungrier system.
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:26 AM   #6
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between 10-15%
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:36 AM   #7
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We try to buget at 2.5% of gross, but in most years it end up about 3%. 2008 I think we will just buget for 3%.
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We have been as high as 11%
Last year we were at 6%
We budgeted 6.5% for 2008

We have lowered it by doing a lot more face to face marketing............
Home shows
craft shows
flower shows
boat shows
seafood festivals
fairs


We have our salesmen work these shows.
The insentive they have for working the show is if they set a lead, it's theirs and does not get distributed to other salesmen. They also get a $50 gas card for every sale they make from a show lead that they set. Other than that they are straight commision and don't get paid for working the show. Helps keep our costs down. Last year we did 51 shows. This year the shows start on 1/18 and we have a show every weekend for the next 9 weeks before we get a weekend off.
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3% last year. Plan on going to about 5% this year. Home shows plus print ads and will start an adword campaign whenever it slows down. I have been very busy just with referrals this year. I do a lot of networking and don't know what that costs except for the time involved.
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15-18% of gross sales
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For the guys who have said only 3% gross maintained but still doing OK with this bad economy, I say your business is already rock solid foundation, well-established, with a stable client-base.
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:16 AM   #12
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coca cola spends over 10% of gross sales om advertising and im pretty sure they have a strong client base
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We have been as high as 11%
Last year we were at 6%
We budgeted 6.5% for 2008

We have lowered it by doing a lot more face to face marketing............
Home shows
craft shows
flower shows
boat shows
seafood festivals
fairs


We have our salesmen work these shows.
The insentive they have for working the show is if they set a lead, it's theirs and does not get distributed to other salesmen. They also get a $50 gas card for every sale they make from a show lead that they set. Other than that they are straight commision and don't get paid for working the show. Helps keep our costs down. Last year we did 51 shows. This year the shows start on 1/18 and we have a show every weekend for the next 9 weeks before we get a weekend off.
Little confused here. Do your percentages take into account the cost of doing the shows and all that involves?
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Little confused here. Do your percentages take into account the cost of doing the shows and all that involves?

Yes they do. The guys working the show don't cost us anything except an additional $50 gas card if they sell a job.
The $50 is factored into the percentage.
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Old 01-08-2008, 03:12 PM   #15
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and any good sa;esperson knows the home shows are their ticket to an easy life after the pain of being there for ever and a day as it seems sometimes!
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I feel I need to qualify 3% for marketing. That is what I spent, but as I'm looking to raise the bar price wise and job quality wise, I figure I will be spending close to double or 5 to 6%. Since my business is remodels, I don't need a lot of calls, and qualifying is the most important part when I do get the call. But I am booked solid till May, and except for my website(which isn't even finished) I expect more referral type calls. Home shows are OK, but networking is King with me. Networking with appliance people, my bank and even my competitors has been my best source of business.
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Old 01-09-2008, 04:36 PM   #17
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We spent $188,000 last year on $10.5 million in sales.Our budget this year we added $100,000 to it.We worked our existing customer base to death and we continue to do so.Our customer is mostly remodel because of the market and we expect it to get much worse in the 3rd-4th quarters.So we are spending most of our money in the 1st-2nd quarters this year.As the banks start rolling out there losses in the sub-prime mess we fell our customers will tighten up with spending and with election crap going on we think we are rolling the dice in the right direction.The newspapers and the news will make this a big media event and this will make Enron and World Com look like chump change.
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:26 PM   #18
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Only 4% of income. I should be spending 10% and some say 10% of where you want to be, not where you are.

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Old 01-10-2008, 09:38 PM   #19
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I linked this Contractortalk.com thread on the Construction Marketing Ideas blog thinking it to be a useful outline of industry standards and practices that will help contractors determine if their marketing budget is in line.

Sonny Lykos responded with this inspiring and somewhat provocative comment:

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I found the discussion on contractortalk about budgets for advertising and marketing (A/M) a little off the track. Let's say one has $300K in annual sales. If budgeting 6% of sales for A/M, the dollar amount would be $18K. For sales of $600K it would be $36K.

I wonder if any or these business owners ever considered that every dime of that A/M budget could be eliminated if they would just do something different, like taking care of the past and current customers. In other words, "Brand" their company in a manner that would eliminate the necessity to find and sell new customers.

How about doing things for their customers that would be not only different from our industry, but literally WOW their customers. One idea I've suggested a couple of times in various construction forums but never got any interest, typifies the mindset of most contractors. And my idea would not even cost the contractors a dime.

Calculate the labor charged labor rate of a field person. Say it's $75/hr. Multiply that by 2 hours and you arrive at $150. Multiply that 3 times to get $450. Say you're about to sell a kitchen remodel for $40K. Increase it's sales price by that $450. If it's a large remodel, say about $200K, or a house for $500K, increase it by $900 ($75/hr x 4 = $300 times three = $900).

If a job is sold at $40K, it can certainly be sold at $40,450, and the same for selling a house or large remodel at $200,900 vs. $200,000.

Here's the prepaid marketing part of it. This cost is part of the selling price, and costs the contractor nothing. Not a dime! At 3 months, then again 9 months, and again, 18 months, an appointment is made with the customer for a field technician (with great personal skills) to stop by to inspect the completed work. On small projects 2 hours are allocated including travel time. On large projects 4 hours. And at every appointment something is looked for, and corrected on the spot, whether it's just some caulking, adjusting cabinet doors, anything.

WOW! Name me just one customer anywhere who has ever been serviced in that manner. Yep the above is just one more part of the "branding" process, and one part totally alien to our industry. This idea can be expand even further, but that's another rant.

So I have no sympathy for contractors who find the need to spend thousands or tens of thousands of dollars to just market, when other options are available to them should they decided that indeed, they are in business to "serve". And when "serving" in a manner we all which to be served, A/M budgets are eliminated while margins rise. Understand, that obtaining net profits is not goal #1 - serving is. And "how" one serves, determines the size of the net profits, or a lack of them.

Yet a tradesman mentality, and even many with a business owner mentality, will never understand that basis aspect of marketing.

Stop now, being mediocre. Think WOW! No. think double WOW!
Something rather important to think about, I think.
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:19 AM   #20
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Interesting food for thought. I'm strangely comfortable with it. However I can see how returning to a job 18mos later can be potentially opening up a can of worms.
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