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I think what he's failing to understand is These times right now are fat. There's plenty of work and that much effort isn't warranted. It shows just how green he really is. As Rob was saying he doesn't know what he doesn't know.

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Actually the opposite. Shows how green you are . If you had any clue what you were doing in business you wouldn't be booked out. You would be hiring people to handle the extra work and then when you can cover all the work and don't have to then people away, then you work on getting web more leads.
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Actually the opposite. Shows how green you are . If you had any clue what you were doing in business you wouldn't be booked out. You would be hiring people to handle the extra work and then when you can cover all the work and don't have to then people away, then you work on getting web more leads.
Dean, Cali is lots of things but he is anything but green...

There will be a point in time (remember, he's twice your age), where your priorities change and continuing the climb up the company building mountain may no longer fit into the scheme of things...

Besides, based on your income projections, you won't need to by then anyway... I'd think you'd be traveling the world and donating your time by then...
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People who make 50k a year don't get approved for 25k. Especially with no money down and no payments for 18 months, unless you are charging credit card rates, which is not what legit contractors do. They don't allow their clients to purchase things that they cannot afford.
I don't give two ****s how my clients pay me I'm your LV guy not your accountant.

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Actually the opposite. Shows how green you are . If you had any clue what you were doing in business you wouldn't be booked out. You would be hiring people to handle the extra work and then when you can cover all the work and don't have to then people away, then you work on getting web more leads.

You know a lot about sales apparently, but not much about the construction side. In these "fat" times, where do we get these workers from? There are so many threads here about the lack of quality trades people. I see a lot of ads on craigslist where companies declare that they have so much work booked out, and are looking to add workers. What kind of workers do you suppose they will find going this route?
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You know a lot about sales apparently, but not much about the construction side. In these "fat" times, where do we get these workers from? There are so many threads here about the lack of quality trades people. I see a lot of ads on craigslist where companies declare that they have so much work booked out, and are looking to add workers. What kind of workers do you suppose they will find going this route?
I'm thinking convincing high quality workers to come work for your company would be a.. Dare I say it.. Sales skill?
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Speaking about leaving flyers on the door... the only flyer I find in my mailbox is the unlicensed trade, someone to weed and feed my lawn, or cleaning services.

Second of all nobody uses front doors around here, people go in and out of their garages 95% of the time, the only time they check the front door is when they expect a package or they have the party and they expect guests.

If I would go and hang flyers on the door and I cover 4-5 surrounding neighborhoods, if I get a call or two it will be from some tire-kickers who will think I'm unlicensed trade who works for "Tree Fiddy".

If I'm doing a job in the neighborhood if someone needs something, they will stop by and ask for the business card, and before they invite me into their home, they will talk to the guy on the block I'm doing the work for to see if I did a good job.

Another thing about knocking on doors, you have to check the local ordinances, some prohibit you doing that unless you have a permit or some sort of a state license which must be displayed.
The reason some towns started doing that, there were quite a few incidents when people knock on the door and if no one is home they would rob the place, so if you walking around knocking on doors, most likely someone will call the cops and you will get checked out.

On the general note, when you have a good reputation, you don't really have no time to walk around knocking on doors. I don't even know how to do that because I never had the need for that, not to mention when I'm home and someone rings my bell and I don't expect anyone, I ain't opening that door. I don't even let my kids in when they ring the bell, I have a circular driveway and they pull up to the front door, so they ring the bell and they get pissed because they have to go around and use the garage keypad
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Actually the opposite. Shows how green you are . If you had any clue what you were doing in business you wouldn't be booked out. You would be hiring people to handle the extra work and then when you can cover all the work and don't have to then people away, then you work on getting web more leads.
What you fall to realize is you aren't talking about growing a business but your leads and closing those specific leads.

You don't know the first thing about growing a business. The logistics alone would have you curled up in the fetal position crying in the shower.

There is no responsibility and accountability to the growth. Hiring people to do a good job and uphold your reputation isn't quick or easy. Your lack of knowledge on the shortage in the trade pool is just one area of many you are clueless to.

You area touching on 5% of what is needed to grow a business.

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You know a lot about sales apparently, but not much about the construction side. In these "fat" times, where do we get these workers from? There are so many threads here about the lack of quality trades people. I see a lot of ads on craigslist where companies declare that they have so much work booked out, and are looking to add workers. What kind of workers do you suppose they will find going this route?
If he closing jobs in 15 min every day, being swamped with work and to keep up with all that... he be searching on Craig's list for a bunch of hacks just to send someone to the house and what this guy will do there nobody cares...He said it himself, he only cares about his commission.
We had a guy like this here, doing just basements... he signed a s*^t load of work at low prices so the people cannot pass up, he took down payments and that was it. Here Is A Link to the story

Sounds like this guy hits these neighborhoods one at the time the same way, finds a few suckers who dive on a "tree fiddy" deal he offers them... because nobody in their right mind will sign a contract on the first meeting or a knock on the door... when people don't know him from Adam or what he does or where he from and just write him a down payment for a 5k, 10k, 20k job...It's BS...
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your telling me you willfully turn down millions and millions of dollars in revenue? Companies that are doing the exact things I'm teaching on this forum are multi multi million dollar a year companies. Your saying you can get as big as you want by just word of mouth so basically what your telling me is have 15 - 20 people a week that want work done and you just say no, right?
We do millions of dollars in revenue and we turned down millions of dollars in revenue. I have sent out more work then I have done in the last 6 months to other contractors. New houses to bathroom remodels.

The growth is slower than if we just took on as much as we could and hired people who we had not trained properly to do their jobs with years of experience in the field doing it our way, but it is a good way for someone who does not ever want to have to advertise or knock on doors. The only advertisement we are interested in is the Parade of Homes which allows our prospective clients to see are working person
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If he closing jobs in 15 min every day, being swamped with work and to keep up with all that... he be searching on Craig's list for a bunch of hacks just to send someone to the house and what this guy will do there nobody cares...He said it himself, he only cares about his commission.
We had a guy like this here, doing just basements... he signed a s*^t load of work at low prices so the people cannot pass up, he took down payments and that was it. Here Is A Link to the story

Sounds like this guy hits these neighborhoods one at the time the same way, finds a few suckers who dive on a "tree fiddy" deal he offers them... because nobody in their right mind will sign a contract on the first meeting or a knock on the door... when people don't know him from Adam or what he does or where he from and just write him a down payment for a 5k, 10k, 20k job...It's BS...
Where did I say I only care about commission? Your the only one in here the completely makes stuff up. At least the other guys are debating based on stuff I actually said.

Not everyone in the neighborhood that wants to get work done is going to stop by your job. Most of the people won't take action until they see a flyer or something with a great offer on it.

For instance I'm running a finance promotion right now where they can get the job done now and they don't have to pay one cent towards it for 18 months.

They pay the deposit, we get the work done, and they hae a free kitchen or bathroom for 18 months. During that time they either pay for it in full or after the 18 months if rolls into a low interest loan.

So if your working in an area and the homeowner doesn't want to start the job for say 6 months from now there definitely not goin to stop by and talk to you about getting work done because there not planning on it for 6 months.

But if they know you can put them out 18 months before they actually have to pay for it, well then the 6 months is no longer a problem they'll do the job right then.

You don't get those people I do. You don't get them because they have no idea what you have to offer. I get them because I show them what I have to offer and sometimes it makes them reach out where they otherwise wouldn't.

There's no arguing with this and you know it
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they don't have to pay one cent towards it for 18 months.

They pay the deposit,
Not sure what to make of this.

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Not sure what to make of this.

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after reading this i wanna shoot me in the head..
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sorry I should have expected anyone on this thread to actually use there brain. I stated earlier that I get a deposit so obviously what I meant is after the deposit they don't pay anything for 18 months. sometimes though I actually don't even charge the deposit. they get it done with nothing down and have 18 months to pay.
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sorry I should have expected anyone on this thread to actually use there brain. I stated earlier that I get a deposit so obviously what I meant is after the deposit they don't pay anything for 18 months. sometimes though I actually don't even charge the deposit. they get it done with nothing down and have 18 months to pay.
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sorry I should have expected anyone on this thread to actually use there brain. I stated earlier that I get a deposit so obviously what I meant is after the deposit they don't pay anything for 18 months. sometimes though I actually don't even charge the deposit. they get it done with nothing down and have 18 months to pay.
"Are you telling me" you didn't mean what you wrote and that's a problem with my brain?

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"Are you telling me" you didn't mean what you wrote and that's a problem with my brain?

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I wrote the same thing earlier saying I take a deposit and then they don't pay for 18. either way its cleared up now.
When we see something like that we call it "a contradiction". When is in multiple posts we call that "multiple contradictions".

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a combination of statements, ideas, or features of a situation that are opposed to one another.

"the proposed new system suffers from a set of internal contradictions"

a person, thing, or situation in which inconsistent elements are present.

"the paradox of using force to overcome force is a real contradiction"

the statement of a position opposite to one already made.

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