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Old 03-19-2010, 05:35 AM   #861
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I met a few of their reps over at the Washington DC conference last year. They are a newer company trying to break into the national level. Haven't received much work from them since I don't do inspections or general p&p for nationals.

I've got some contact info for people I've personally spoken to over there if you'd like.



Thanks for the offer, but I'm going to pass.

I asked them for info to verify they are a legit company. Guess what?

I never heard back from them. If they are too busy to respond to a simple request like that then they are probably too busy to process my vendor application once I spent my good time to fill it out.

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Looks like i'm ok here for now.....

http://www.healthyhomestraining.org/RRP/State.htm

The FEDS have made no reasonable effort to alert the contractors or public about this new ruling. They are leaving people in the dark on purpose. What this purpose is will soon be seen. It's all about control in Washington these days.

Let me see, you pay a couple of hundred bucks to get into the class, which will automatically put you on a government list. Now all the government needs to do is locate the job you are at and ready the fines.


I don't want to turn this political but the feds need to keep their nose out of what each state does!!

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Good morning, all. Happy Friday.

I'm looking for experienced vendors to replace one that I can't get a call back or e-mail response from. I have a work order in Lincoln County, South Dakota that needs to be taken care of immediately.

The other counties in his South Dakota coverage area are: Clay, Union, and Minnehaha [plus any other counties you cover]

He covers 2 other states.

In Iowa, I'll need experienced vendors to cover Cherokee, Lyons, Monona, Plymouth, Sioux, and Woodbury counties.

In Nebraska, I'll need experienced vendors to cover Dakota, Dixon, and Thurston.

If anyone covers these areas and wants the work, send an e-mail to me at allreo.vendor.review@gmail.com and put your state[s] in the subject line so I can find you easily. I literally get 100's of e-mails every day.

Hope the weather's been good for everyone this week. It's gorgeous here in Arizona and I've already been down to play in the river. Looks like the heat might just stick around through the weekend.

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While there are a lot of states that haven't adopted their own rules I seriously doubt the feds are going to allow the states to slide by.

There is way too much money involved at $25,000 fines per occurrence per day for the feds to let that slide.
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Hope the weather's been good for everyone this week. It's gorgeous here in Arizona and I've already been down to play in the river. Looks like the heat might just stick around through the weekend.

Linda




After several days of upper 50s and low 60s we are having snow again today.
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I have a work order in Lincoln County, South Dakota that needs to be taken care of immediately.


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What kind of trip charge are you willing to pay.
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How many folks got an email like this recently?

And what would you tell a company that is trying to hose the contractor over like this??

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We would like to thank you for all of your hard work and service you provide. Due to the extremely competitive environment within the property preservation industry, our clients have decided to discontinue the practice of paying for service calls (trip charges). Below is a list of services that they will no longer compensate for, effective 3/19/2010. We know this new change can make it difficult to operate, however, it is our hope that we will be able to offset this loss by providing more efficient bidding processes on second bids and focusing on common bid approval items, thus minimizing your time at properties and in return maximizing future bid approvals. We are also working on a variety of other upcoming incentives which will focus on turnaround time, work order accuracy, etc.

The following are the items that will and will not have trip charges paid.

· REO occupancy checks when work cannot be performed – Yes
· Provide access – Yes
· Second bids – No
· Limited growth grass cut orders – No
· Occupied property – No
· Verify ICC - No
· Weather conditions – No
· Bad Address – No

Thank you,

My first reaction is that unfortunately for this company's clients the realities of life have nothing to do with their wishes. The reality is that none of our prices are going down. The price of diesel fuel is approaching $3 per gallon. The reality is that previously the trip pay barely or did not cover the actual expenses of making a trip to the property. And now they want even more work out of us for free????????

NO! I am running a business here, not a charity.

I feel that this national is probably lying to me. I caught them in a lie the first day I worked for them. They told me that Wells Fargo doesn't pay HUD rate. This I happen to know is a lie. All the other companies I work with for WF pay HUD rate less discount.
I wouldn't be surprised if this national is using this as a way to keep more money for themselves. For example on a $120 or $130 HUD rate wint they pay their contractors $60, and then tell them that is the best they can do. That there is no money to be made on initial secures. Its all made on the bid approvals. Then when they do give you a bid approval and you do the work they only pay about half of what they said the bid approval was for.

I don't do much work for this company, and it looks like I'm going to be doing even far less.
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What kind of trip charge are you willing to pay.
Tell me what kind of beer you drink and I'll ship a case out today. Too bad it's so far away from you.

How do you feel about going to Lincoln County, Nebraska? I just got a request while I was responding to your post for an initial secure & winterization in North Platte.

I just left a message for you. The client needs to know right away.

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Hi all -

We have a landscaping and lawn maintenance company and we are thinking of expanding to include property preservation services. In addition to the additional types of insurance that we will need, what other pitfalls should we be on the lookout for. Also, are there any property preservation companies in Georgia looking to contract out the lawn maintenance portion?

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Ya'll wanna hear about a night mare job??

No??

Well I'm gonna tell ya any way.


Yesterday I've got an initial secure. As I walk around the house I see there is a lot of straw in the back yard with rabbit feces. This by itself doesn't shock me too much, but when I walk into the garage I'm surprised at all the straw and rabbit feces there.
The shock comes from when I enter the house and find rabbit feces and urine stains EVERY where thru out the house. This place is nasty. I can't imagine getting the clean up bid for it. But I guess we'll see.
The neighbor told me that his estimation is 300 to 400 rabbits were in cages in the garage. Rows and rows of cages 3 to 4 cages high. The feces and urine just ran down thru the cages below.
Inside the house he estimated there was another 300 to 400 running free, along with birds and other animals he didn't know what they were.

Those are urine stains on the door.
The furnace has caked on dust, the filter is so plugged I don't see how air flowed thru it. The washing machine has hair inside it, and you can only imagine what the cabinets of the washer and dryer look like.
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Looks like i'm ok here for now.....

http://www.healthyhomestraining.org/RRP/State.htm

The FEDS have made no reasonable effort to alert the contractors or public about this new ruling. They are leaving people in the dark on purpose. What this purpose is will soon be seen. It's all about control in Washington these days.

Let me see, you pay a couple of hundred bucks to get into the class, which will automatically put you on a government list. Now all the government needs to do is locate the job you are at and ready the fines.


I don't want to turn this political but the feds need to keep their nose out of what each state does!!

Amendment X
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That means that Montana has not adopted any rules worse/harsher then the feds..it doesn't mean that there is no RRP ruling that applies to you
This will be the doom of this industry if not followed closely and not by the feds or your State..it will be the chargebacks that will follow when a property conveys to HUD and the HUD Lead Inspectors find lead and reconvey the home back to the bank and guess who is going to be found responsible for not reporting this properly...1 guess and its not Santa Clausjmo.....
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Ya'll wanna hear about a night mare job??

No??

Well I'm gonna tell ya any way.


Yesterday I've got an initial secure. As I walk around the house I see there is a lot of straw in the back yard with rabbit feces. This by itself doesn't shock me too much, but when I walk into the garage I'm surprised at all the straw and rabbit feces there.
The shock comes from when I enter the house and find rabbit feces and urine stains EVERY where thru out the house. This place is nasty. I can't imagine getting the clean up bid for it. But I guess we'll see.
The neighbor told me that his estimation is 300 to 400 rabbits were in cages in the garage. Rows and rows of cages 3 to 4 cages high. The feces and urine just ran down thru the cages below.
Inside the house he estimated there was another 300 to 400 running free, along with birds and other animals he didn't know what they were.

Those are urine stains on the door.
The furnace has caked on dust, the filter is so plugged I don't see how air flowed thru it. The washing machine has hair inside it, and you can only imagine what the cabinets of the washer and dryer look like.
Gut job! down to the floor joists and the walls to the studs. Throw on your respirator and strip it down and fog the house with an antimicrobial/disinfectant and bid the rebuild...Glory glory
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Hi all -

We have a landscaping and lawn maintenance company and we are thinking of expanding to include property preservation services. In addition to the additional types of insurance that we will need, what other pitfalls should we be on the lookout for. Also, are there any property preservation companies in Georgia looking to contract out the lawn maintenance portion?

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Don't know where you are at in Georgia but we used to do the entire State of Georgia and if you are close to Dahlonega (spelling?) I could pass you a name and he may be able to help ya....Just private message me if you want it.
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Hey Y'all,

What seems to be the going rate for small dead animal removal? I've got to bid to remove 1 dead squirrel from a fire place and a couple of dead mice.

I've never had to remove any before. So I just want to see waht's reasonable being paid.

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What seems to be the going rate for small dead animal removal? I've got to bid to remove 1 dead squirrel from a fire place and a couple of dead mice.

I've never had to remove any before. So I just want to see waht's reasonable being paid.

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Tough question! Figure in the cost of the casket, headstone, hearst cost and you the funeral director and I'm figuring say $1000 for the poor squirrel and $600 per mouse
Seriously, "whatever you figure its worth" is what you charge. BUT still charge for the funeral directors fee
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Tough question! Figure in the cost of the casket, headstone, hearst cost and you the funeral director and I'm figuring say $1000 for the poor squirrel and $600 per mouse
Seriously, "whatever you figure its worth" is what you charge. BUT still charge for the funeral directors fee
LMAO! I'm using that one on my next dead animal removal.

On a serious note, if its not too far away I'd say $150. If its farther away figure in your travel time with the bid.
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Thanks guys, Needed the laugh. Long day on the roof today.

Fremont, What should I do if they request cremation services? Never mind, I found my tourch an map gas.lol

Anywho, the mice are, shall we say, preserved to the levels only known to be used for Pharo's. The squirrel however, is quite putrid

Gotta roll, Dirty, Tired, and Hungry!

I'll check back in later If'n the little lady will let me.
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Thanks guys, Needed the laugh. Long day on the roof today.

Fremont, What should I do if they request cremation services? Never mind, I found my tourch an map gas.lol

Anywho, the mice are, shall we say, preserved to the levels only known to be used for Pharo's. The squirrel however, is quite putrid

Gotta roll, Dirty, Tired, and Hungry!

I'll check back in later If'n the little lady will let me.
Don't mention the MAP gas since either 1 of 2 things will happen:

1) the Service Company tech well ask you "why in the world did you need a map when everyone uses GPS?"

2) The Service Company will issue a HUGE chargeback for feeding you on the jobsite with a "value meal"

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I just rec'd my first bid for construction clean up and i dont have a clue to what to charge per sq footage... i need help from the best - thank you job includes
Furnish labor and materials to rough and final clean each production unit. Rough clean consists of: cleaning all drywall mud from windows, doors, and bathtubs; cleaning cabinets, countertops, sinks, and moldings; cleaning paint from windows; and removing all associated debris left behind. Final Clean includes but is not limited to: complete dusting, vacuuming all carpets, cleaning and polishing of sinks, cleaning windows inside and out, cleaning all appliances and fixtures (including mirrors and shower enclosures), mopping/cleaning all hard surface floors, and cleaning all door tracks and door thesholds.

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I just rec'd my first bid for construction clean up and i dont have a clue to what to charge per sq footage... i need help from the best - thank you job includes
Furnish labor and materials to rough and final clean each production unit. Rough clean consists of: cleaning all drywall mud from windows, doors, and bathtubs; cleaning cabinets, countertops, sinks, and moldings; cleaning paint from windows; and removing all associated debris left behind. Final Clean includes but is not limited to: complete dusting, vacuuming all carpets, cleaning and polishing of sinks, cleaning windows inside and out, cleaning all appliances and fixtures (including mirrors and shower enclosures), mopping/cleaning all hard surface floors, and cleaning all door tracks and door thesholds.
Good luck where you are live. We used to do this a lot several years ago until the "cheaper uninsured unlicensed illegals" started doing each window,door, tubs, sinks for $1.50 each, Complete sales deep clean for $35.00.
We couldn't pay for the fuel for that not alone with any profit. Also, we found out that if you don't bid this per unit after a visual inspection you will get hosed....carpet guys will leave all the remnants behind, drywallers will leave all their cuttings behind and mud buckets, window guys will leave all the plastic and window trimming behind. You get the idea. Basically you can't just throw a figure out without knowing how much debris you got to remove before you can clean but if you want a figure heres what we got 4 years ago: $600 for deep sales clean for only interior. $475.00 for exterior pickup (shingles, pallets) as long as it was only skidsteer work.
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