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Old 08-08-2016, 12:03 AM   #1
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We're building a shop with a house on top, like a carriage house. 28x48, and 24` to the eave.

We're going with metal for the roof and siding. I'm trying to get ideas on siding, how to break it up. I've done wainscoat on some buildings like this, the tallest was 18` with a 3` wainscoat, it was level with the window sills.

If I have a bunch of 4x4 windows with the top at 6`8" to match the walk doors, and have wainscoat I don't think that 3` would be tall enough and I think it looks dorky if it runs halfway up the windows.

I've thought about a belly band. I also plan to have multiple colors. Roof color, siding color, wainscoat color, and possibly match all j metal trim and corner metal to the roof color.

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Old 08-09-2016, 02:11 PM   #2
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Well,there is a book out there,the title is What Not To Build,it warns two materials per elevation and two colors. With all the color changes you mentioned,it will violate at least one of the rules.I feel you may want to rethink all those colors,you're building a shop/ house,not a rainbow.




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Right on, thanks. That book looks interesting.

I'm just over thinking it, probably just go with a wainscoat, keep it simple.
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What Not To Build,it warns two materials per elevation and two colors.
I see a lot of condos, townhouses, and other sardine type containers that intentionally throw a mix up of the most contrasting materials/colors. It seems though as they do that in order to not make the cramped and small look cramped and small.
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It somewhat depends on the style of the building. Sometimes the "rules" need to be broken. Can you post some images of the floor plan and/or general elevations you have in mind?

I've been working on some plans for a garage with guest house above. It's an industrial modern, with some exposed block, stucco, and standing seam aluminum roofing & siding. The three materials blend really well and work with the clean, simple lines of the building.
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I can offer no insight on colors and such, but I think the whole concept of having a residence above the biz is way cool. (How all small towns used to be).

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This is going to be our shouse. I've changed the design, I think I've drawn it 3 or 4 times now.

I'll try and post a pic of my drawing tonight.

The new design is 28x40. 2 bed, 1 bath. 2, 6 3/4" x 24" x 28` glulams will carry the floor and will be pocketed into the exterior wall. TJIs will hang off the sides of the glulams.

The basement/shop area will have 12` walls and be open. I didn't want posts so that's why the glulams are so big.

I'm not as worried about the exterior finish now, since I took 4` off the height.

I'm thinking of using ICFs for the foundation, I've never used them and would like to.
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This sounds so similar to what I'm working on. 12ft ceiling so a car lift will fit in the shop?

I was also thinking about ICF, but I've settled on Omni block. It's like reverse ICF with the insulation inside the block, so you can leave the block exposed as the wall finish.

I'm excited to see your plan. I can clean up a few ideas and share if you'd like.
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The top of the floor will be 12` and the bottom of my two beams will be 10` and the ceiling will be 11`.

I'll be able to have 10` tall garage doors so backing trailers in will be possible. That and it's easier to spin lumber around with more headroom. Our garage at or house we're in the process of selling only had 8` ceilings and I couldn't stand it.
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This to go up on some acreage I take it?
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I like the split bedrooms. I'd probably extend that hall wall over so the bath is screened from the living room a bit more.

Are there exterior stairs, or is this a sloped lot?
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I didn't label the stairs, but they are at the end of the house off the kitchen. The stairs go down under the closet for that bedroom.

We have 2 11 acre lots next to each other. This is going up on the end of them.

I might have a picture of the land on my phone.

I like the idea of extending that wall.
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The 1st picture is the spot I leveled, the second is looking down hill. I had better pictures on my last phone.
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Wow. Love the view.

Is the area between the two bedrooms with the exterior door the entry, or a back door?

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Thanks! The view is awesome.

We're in Jefferson City Montana.

Between the bedrooms is the entry, which will be on the uphill side, so the shop will be like a daylight basement.
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That makes sense. What style are you thinking of doing?

My brain thinks in modern, so my first thought on exterior finishes would be a small cantilever for a portion of the upper level. That would give you a nice visual break and a place to change materials.
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I agree with joy about extending the wall.
What you're building is a fairly big deal here in Texas... Barndominiums
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I agree on extending that wall by the bathroom, good idea!

I'm not sure on the style, it'll have a 5/12 roof and 2` eaves.

I don't think a cantilever or dormers are in our budget. We're trying to build this one cheap and go all out when we build a house in a couple years.

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