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Old 05-21-2017, 01:59 PM   #41
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It's called Qualified Immunity, and doesn't cover everything a civil servant does. Google Harlow v Fitzgerald.
But I bet looking at Google earth is covered
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Old 05-21-2017, 02:11 PM   #42
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But I bet looking at Google earth is covered
Well, truthfully................... anyone can look at Google Earth.
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It's called Qualified Immunity, and doesn't cover everything a civil servant does. Google Harlow v Fitzgerald.
Did I not use the word "most"? All my words count.

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Did i not use threw word "most"? All my words count.

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So.......

My court date. I offer to plead guilty and pay the fine. States Attorney says an inspector must enter and inspect the property. I refuse. So I get a trial date.

At trial I am sworn in. Plead guilty and offer to pay the fine. States Attorney will have no part of it. So under oath I state that there was a violation. I have removed the violation. My attorney and I then (under oath) presented letters from 6 neighbors stating there are no longer any violations. Then I bring in a witness. My witness is sworn in and under oath says the violations are no longer there. My witness is questioned by the States Attorney. The inspectors notes from his first site visit states the violations "are clearly visible from the street". So we continue to insist the inspector does not have to enter the property.

In the end, I am guilty. The Judge orders that I must pay $300.00 in court costs. I am fined $400.00. I have been placed on Court Supervision. AND I have been ordered to allow the inspector on my property.

I have $2500.00 in attorney costs along with the $600.00 listed above.

So what have I learned? My word means nothing. Being sworn in means nothing. Speaking under oath means nothing. Signed letters presented under oath mean nothing. Having a witness, sworn in and under oath means nothing.
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I can't wait for my state mandated google toilet cam to make sure I'm not using too much paper.
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Death by a thousand cuts inflicted by bureaucrats............
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So what have I learned? My word means nothing. Being sworn in means nothing. Speaking under oath means nothing. Signed letters presented under oath mean nothing. Having a witness, sworn in and under oath means nothing.
Law means nothing anymore. Its whatever the judge wants, he or she doesnt care about the law and you need a lawyer and $$$$ to fight it.

I just had the ordinance officer one me, he walked around my yard and took pictures when I wasnt home. We live in a small town of a few hundred people and everbody knows everybody. The mayor likes to pick on people and blame the ordinance officer. He was parked out front the day before so I need in coming. The wife called his cell phone and he wouldnt return her calls. So she walks to his house and asked if he needed anything. He doesnt know what she is talking about. Well 4 people told us you were parked out infront of our house friday looking at our house. "Nope wasnt me", but 4 people said it was you, "no it wasnt me". We have security cameras, " wasnt me".

Lying sack of scum got off our back and now we are trying to round up people for next election to flush the scum out thats been there for 30 years.

Called the local police and county sheriff dept and they said that illegal but we cant press charges because there was no signs up that say no trespassing or we didnt notify them to not enter out property. So they have been notified and there is signs.
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So.......

My court date. I offer to plead guilty and pay the fine. States Attorney says an inspector must enter and inspect the property. I refuse. So I get a trial date.

At trial I am sworn in. Plead guilty and offer to pay the fine. States Attorney will have no part of it. So under oath I state that there was a violation. I have removed the violation. My attorney and I then (under oath) presented letters from 6 neighbors stating there are no longer any violations. Then I bring in a witness. My witness is sworn in and under oath says the violations are no longer there. My witness is questioned by the States Attorney. The inspectors notes from his first site visit states the violations "are clearly visible from the street". So we continue to insist the inspector does not have to enter the property.

In the end, I am guilty. The Judge orders that I must pay $300.00 in court costs. I am fined $400.00. I have been placed on Court Supervision. AND I have been ordered to allow the inspector on my property.

I have $2500.00 in attorney costs along with the $600.00 listed above.

So what have I learned? My word means nothing. Being sworn in means nothing. Speaking under oath means nothing. Signed letters presented under oath mean nothing. Having a witness, sworn in and under oath means nothing.
why do you have this empty property for so long?
and it seems you could have resolved the issue earlier on, but elected to be a hardass, and you paid for it.
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Law means nothing anymore. Its whatever the judge wants, he or she doesnt care about the law and you need a lawyer and $$$$ to fight it.

I just had the ordinance officer one me, he walked around my yard and took pictures when I wasnt home. We live in a small town of a few hundred people and everbody knows everybody. The mayor likes to pick on people and blame the ordinance officer. He was parked out front the day before so I need in coming. The wife called his cell phone and he wouldnt return her calls. So she walks to his house and asked if he needed anything. He doesnt know what she is talking about. Well 4 people told us you were parked out infront of our house friday looking at our house. "Nope wasnt me", but 4 people said it was you, "no it wasnt me". We have security cameras, " wasnt me".

Lying sack of scum got off our back and now we are trying to round up people for next election to flush the scum out thats been there for 30 years.

Called the local police and county sheriff dept and they said that illegal but we cant press charges because there was no signs up that say no trespassing or we didnt notify them to not enter out property. So they have been notified and there is signs.
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There's no shortage of corruption in big cities either.
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why do you have this empty property for so long?
and it seems you could have resolved the issue earlier on, but elected to be a hardass, and you paid for it.
Yes, he failed to bow down to his government masters. Shoulda known better.
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Too bad I saw this too late.

There are two basic approaches, one is saying It's your valued property. They obviously disagreed.

The other is to say those are compost piles. I don't know the regs around there, but ruling that compost piles aren't allowed would be very unpopular here.
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IMO lawyers don't really help if these types of situations (but they gladly take your friggin $$$).

You'd be better off doing some research and representing yourself. Things like "jurisdiction" come into play as does "Are they "civil" or "criminal" charges?" and "Where is the "injured party ?"

Think you own your property? You dont. I'd start by filing trespass charges (no matter what they "say") Gather the names and hand deliver them.
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This is still the dumbest statement of the quarter to me.

If you buy enough land to not see your dwellings from the roads, you are absolutely paying taxes for that privacy. Someone who buys a half acre lot next to a road or a corner lot is not paying for that privacy. Just like if you buy a Lariat package you are paying for luxury that someone who buys an XLT package is not...

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Exactly what I did in my own small town. The cute word nowadays is "embedded". I went from being a nobody, to chairing membership for the local HBA. Went from nobody to chairing the local Planning Commission

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Exactly what I did in my own small town. The cute word nowadays is "embedded". I went from being a nobody, to chairing membership for the local HBA. Went from nobody to chairing the local Planning Commission

Life is a Game - the ultimate game. Jump in with both feet and wrestle that steer to the ground.

Either that, or stand by while it steam rolls your sorry butt.

I'm not interested in picking up leavings from the party that others had.
Thats what Im working on right now. They all been in their positions for 30 years so they are nice and cozy and can do whatever they want.

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