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Old 05-20-2017, 05:05 PM   #21
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......Ask them who gives them the authority to view your home and invade your privacy without your permission ?
Basically, the First Amendment. They eyes cannot trespass.

Anything 83 feet and up your don't have legal control over. US v Causby.

Plus, you'd have to prove the aircraft that took the image of your property was directly above it if you want to have any say in the matter. Good luck with that.

I find it interesting that no one has mentioned squat about roofers who use Google satellite view to measure roofs. Oh, wait....... somehow.......... that's OK.
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Old 05-20-2017, 05:14 PM   #22
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Willing to bet good money that a neighbor reported you but is too cowardly to admit it. Have you asked them what the hearing process looks like?


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I would always start in the most minimal way. Perhaps a letter letting them know you took care of the debris. If there was no such debris, this makes them feel like they accomplished something and all you have to do is find a piece of trash on the ground to throw away.
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Plain and simple write a letter saying you have no "debris" on the property.

State that you do in fact have $x,*** worth of fencing staged for future use.
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I find it interesting that no one has mentioned squat about roofers who use Google satellite view to measure roofs. Oh, wait....... somehow.......... that's OK.
I'd say using Google to measuring a roof...probably knowing a client has asked you to do an estimate, is a bit different than a government office using Google to basically spy on you.
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There is no debris as listed as debris in the Zoning Ordnance. There are 3 piles of stockade fence being stored for a job. A pile of cribbing covered by a tarp. No trucks, tractors, no old stoves or fridges, no barrels or buckets, no scrap lumber or recyclables or anything else on their list.

Any ideas on how to respond to "Big Brother" at the hearing?

Thanks for any ideas.
Calmly tell them it was not debris, as defined. Maybe a pic or two to verify what was probably there "at that time". If you bring along a letter from the adjacent neighbors that there's no visual problem, all the better.

When you give them acceptable reasons to comfortably move onto another case, they often will (at least her in Virginia, they will).

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I'd say using Google to measuring a roof...probably knowing a client has asked you to do an estimate, is a bit different than a government office using Google to basically spy on you.
Uh, how are they 'spying' on you?
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They are looking at his property to asses something. They are prying into private property without permission to use that information against you, spying.
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So what became of it?
So far, nothing. I contacted my agent because my premiums were increasing over $100.00 per year. She said She'd shop around for another carrier, that's when the "debris" issue came up. She said that I might be better off not changing providers at this point in time, and I agreed.
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Just get a Google Earth pic of the landfill... tell 'em you'll clean up yours when they clean up theirs...
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You guys need a lesson in the law.

If you can see it from public property, it ain't spying.

Airspace belongs to the public.

But hey, if your paranoid delusions serve to satisfy yourself, have at it.
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Who's paranoid?
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You guys need a lesson in the law.

If you can see it from public property, it ain't spying.

Airspace belongs to the public.

But hey, if your paranoid delusions serve to satisfy yourself, have at it.
Can't see my place from a public space. If I see a drone over my place I'll be waiting for someone to come get it. If bird shot can reach it it ain't 83 ft up

I'm not paranoid at all. Just like my privacy and pay the taxes on acreage to have just that.
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Can't see my place from a public space. If I see a drone over my place I'll be waiting for someone to come get it. If bird shot can reach it it ain't 83 ft up

I'm not paranoid at all. Just like my privacy and pay the taxes on acreage to have just that.
Taxes don't buy privacy.
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Birdshot does though.
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When the evidence was presented to the judge, he asked if they had a warrant to photo the property....They did not and the judge essentially told the zoning guys that if they violate Mr. xyz's rights again he would bring them up on charges....threw it out of court.
I wonder what the real story is. As has been posted, anything visible from public areas can be legally photographed, and as far as I know this applies to geo-synchronous satellites 23,000 miles up. Judges also don't normally "bring (officers of the court) up on charges". This would especially apply to a Judge or Administrator who was presiding in a municipal court or a lesser hearing. What would normally happen is that a Judge would simply disallow the evidence against the accused, and if the civil rights violation was great enough that individual could seek redress in another higher court. Judges are not the police or prosecutor and don't get to charge folks as normally understood.
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I wonder what the real story is. As has been posted, anything visible from public areas can be legally photographed, and as far as I know this applies to geo-synchronous satellites 23,000 miles up. Judges also don't normally "bring (officers of the court) up on charges". This would especially apply to a Judge or Administrator who was presiding in a municipal court or a lesser hearing. What would normally happen is that a Judge would simply disallow the evidence against the accused, and if the civil rights violation was great enough that individual could seek redress in another higher court. Judges are not the police or prosecutor and don't get to charge folks as normally understood.
Most city or state employees have immunity for an action pertaining to their public duty, from most prosecutions.

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Most city or state employees have immunity for an action pertaining to their public duty, from most prosecutions...........

It's called Qualified Immunity, and doesn't cover everything a civil servant does. Google Harlow v Fitzgerald.

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