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tinner666

Found this on the farm Sat. Any clue as to what he/she is?? Acted like a Cobra when it spread it's cape. Central Va.




http://www.rooferscoffeeshop.com/sho...&file=7722&s=0

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Bill

hey tinner, wassup?
dont recognize it, we do have rattlers, copperheads, and water moccasins here. Its definitely not a moccasin, they are reddish brown color, almost like a worm, could be a rattler, wish i could see the tail. I dont know of a rattler that spreads its hood though. I will find out though

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tinner666

Tail was only about an inch long. Fat body guy. Raised up like a cobra. I finally decided to shoot it instead of catch it. No fangs I could find. I left the head intact. A neighbor said he had seen 2 in 40 years and called them a 'Puff-Adder' and he said it was reputed to be harmless.

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tinner666

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tinner666

Oh. No rattles.

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Bill

just dont shoot the black snakes, commonly called a rat snake. These are pure black in color and TOTALLY harmless. They have been reported to kill and eat poisonous snakes. I catch them and put them in my yard.

I have a friend who has made a career out of living in the woods, hunting and fishing, he will be over tomorrow. he should know for sure. Better safe than sorry!

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Bill

Could be a puff adder, does it look like the one on top?

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mdshunk

My guess would be that's a baby copperhead by the clearish-yellow tail.

tinner666

Could be.

I generally catch snakes and let them loose on the property.

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Bill

From what I gather they are poisonous.
I will be sure tomorrow.

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tinner666

Not a copperhead. I know those guys.

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mdshunk

I just went through this step-by-step online snake ID thing, and I still come up with copperhead.

http://www.oplin.lib.oh.us/snake/qui...d/quickid.html

tinner666

I caught 7 snakes in Richmond and released them in Green Bay last month. Browns and Garters.

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Bill

I have seen baby moccasins, they are a copper color, this thing he is talking about resembles the adder. hard to tell as I am not an out doorsman, but I never recall a moccasin puffing its head.

Above I posted a pix of a adder, looks sort of like the one he saw.

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mdshunk

Snakes of VA:

http://fwie.fw.vt.edu/VHS/reptiles/s...f_virginia.htm

Bill

The Brown Water snake??

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tinner666

Copperhead doesn't do this. Neither does Cootn mouth. And Cotton is a laid back snake until hurt. Can often pick them up without hassle.

Now, a watersanke will bite every time. They're mean!

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Bill

Thats whats got me, the puffing of the head

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tinner666

We have a 5-6' brown water snake under our camper at White Tail Resort. Know what he is too. Have a pic of him somewhere too.

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tinner666

Thanks MD Good Link!

Common Name: Eastern Hog-nosed Snake

Scientific Name: Heterodon platirhinos
Etymology:
Genus: Heterodon is derived from the Greek words heteros meaning "different" and odon meaning "tooth".

Species: platirhinos is derived from the Greek words platys meaning "broad or flat" and rhinos meaning "snout".
Vernacular Names: Adder, bastard rattlesnake, black adder, black blowing viper, black hog-nosed snake, black viper snake, blauser, blower, blowing adder, blowing snake, blowing viper, buckwheat-nose snake, calico snake, checkered adder, chuck head, common spreading adder, deaf adder, flat-head, flat-headed adder, hissing snake, hissing viper, mountain moccasin, poison viper, puff adder, red snake, rock adder, sand adder, sand viper, spotted viper, spread-head moccasin, spread-head snake, spread-head viper.
Average Length: 20 - 33 in. (51 - 84 cm)
Virginia Record Length: 44.5 in. (113 cm)
Record length: 45.5 in. (115.6 cm)

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