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Old 02-28-2018, 06:44 PM   #1
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What Is A Framing Laborer Worth? Hourly Wage


I have a question for anyone involved in new home construction or with knowledge regarding a fair hourly wage for a new construction laborer.

Before I begin, I should note that I'm currently employed as a laborer for a fairly large framing company operating out of NW Indiana/Chicagoland. I've been employed by this company since August of 2017, with a short 2 month layoff over the winter due to weather.

Before working for the company I'm currently with, I worked as a window and door installation laborer. By the time I quit I could remove and install almost any type of window imaginable efficiently, cut and install interior trim, and work way up in the sky with very heavy objects and tools. This job also taught me how to operate a variety of power tools and how to swing a hammer like a pro. Left due to travel time (never home).

Anyway, since I've worked with the framing company I've caught on fairly quickly, having learned how to cut and place sill plates, cut and install joists, measure, cut and nail plywood for walls and roofs, install hardware such as hangers and hurricane clips, install Tyvek, etc.

I should also mention that I show up every single day on time and sober. No attitude and great work ethic. I have my own tools and truck. No drugs. You get the point.

I really love the work, and being under 30 years old, I could see myself doing this for the remainder of my life. Only issue I have with my current company and the rest of the local framing companies I've spoke with, is hourly pay.

I could make more at McDonald's, but I'm not looking to work in fast food, so I'm asking what a fair rate of pay would be for a laborer hoping to stick around for the long haul. Not stating I'm anyone special by any means, just hoping this line of work will one day offer a living wage.

Any advice? If I enjoy this type of work should I continue, or go back to windows and doors (which I did like, but hard to find employer that hires English speakers nearby)?
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Old 02-28-2018, 06:48 PM   #2
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You talk too pretty for a laborer.

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Old 02-28-2018, 06:50 PM   #3
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You talk too pretty for a laborer.
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Unfortunately the fastest way to pay increases is often changing companies.


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Unfortunately the fastest way to pay increases is often to learn some stuff, get good at it, and then changing companies.
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If your working as an employee, and not being 1099'd, you have cleared the first hurdle. Custom framing will generally pay more than production framing, so don't get stuck on all easy jobs. Sounds like you have met my 3 rules for employees, so I would be inclined to pay you a little more just based on those:

1) Show up
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3) Be prepared to work.

It is really that easy.
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Sounds like you should be at around $16-$18. Less than $15 is low. $20 or over would be fairly good for where you are at. The best way to make more quickly is to run jobs if you are able or go union.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:54 PM   #8
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I'm not familiar with your neck of the woods but around here skilled laborers/assemblers with a great attitude, work truck/tools and without vises will get you $16-20/hr all day long.
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Go look for a new job and then come back to current company and see if they can match new prospects. Or go straight to your boss and say I'm learning and doing better, and making you more money, so I'd like to make some more money.

If he doesn't give you a raise, start looking for a new job. You're at 3-4 months and if you have no raise by then they don't think much of you, or you need to ask.
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I would say $16. You’ve only been doing framing for 4 months though. Get 6 months in and ask to be bumped to $16/hr.
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When I started, my employer was very good about telling me exactly what made me more valuable to him. If your boss hasn't done that, ask him to do so.
It's a little unreasonable to expect a raise this quickly, but at 6 months with no complaints, you should be in line with what the others are saying. If you're not, but you like the company, ask your boss what he can do for you. If he says nothing, shop around.
It's construction though, you gotta buck up and ask, if there's no clear raise schedule set for you.

I agree with Small though... you talk real purdy. What's your deal?
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I agree with Small though... you talk real purdy. What's your deal?
Quit using drugs.
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You don't realize how little you actually know until you are on the job for a lot longer than you have been. Enjoy the fact that someone is teaching you to build.

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So what will you do? Go to the employer and said a bunch of guys on the internet said you should be making xyz? Do you think that will move them? If you want a raise just man up and ask for it. If they say no you either stay or leave, there are no other options. My guess is if it's a large company they have their pay scales set and would prefer to replace you but it doesn't hurt to ask.
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my opinion... your still green, in california ud be making maybe 15\hr as a helper to the experienced framers. i dont know market price for labor outside california\OR\AZ but its pretty much the same IMO across the board for helpers. i have a crew of framers that will throw an entire 3k sq ft house up in a week and pass inspections. id say find a good, solid crew, stick with em and learn, work hard.. then you can advertise yourself as a journyman framer.. u can always go union too, get your journymans card and make 40+\hr if you can navigate the politics of it all
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my opinion... your still green, in california ud be making maybe 15\hr as a helper to the experienced framers. i dont know market price for labor outside california\OR\AZ but its pretty much the same IMO across the board for helpers. i have a crew of framers that will throw an entire 3k sq ft house up in a week and pass inspections. id say find a good, solid crew, stick with em and learn, work hard.. then you can advertise yourself as a journyman framer.. u can always go union too, get your journymans card and make 40+\hr if you can navigate the politics of it all
BTW theres ALOT of ****ty journyman... find the good ones
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If the best thing that you could say about my work is that it "Passed inspections", I wouldn't take it as a compliment.
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6 months in with a 2 month lay off?. You don't have enough experience to know that you don't know chit.

Talk to the man that hired you. Don't just say you want a raise. Ask for goals and expectations that need to be met to achieve a raise. If they don't provide you with the training or opportunity to progress, learn, and earn; move on.





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sometimes in those large framing companies, you have to learn and fend for yourself, because the higher ups dont want more competition for their jobs/pay.
may want to find a smaller privater crew to learn on. having a boss show you how thing are done is key.

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